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Is there an article on CNN.com of the evidence that the Ferguson cop was beaten?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:03 am
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:03 am
I am assuming there is, but I can't find it.
I just want to see how they spin it.
I just want to see how they spin it.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:06 am to Roaad
No idea. I haven't watched CNN in years. My mindset doesn't for their agenda.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:06 am to Roaad
The report of this so far comes from an unnamed source who spoke to Fox. Maybe it happened, but at this point it hardly qualifies as evidence. Let's see a picture of the guy, or a medical report. One side is as guilty of jumping to conclusions that fit their preconceptions as the other.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:09 am to Jim Rockford
quote:What side has Fox aligned themselves with?
One side is as guilty of jumping to conclusions that fit their preconceptions as the other.
All their articles seem to be dry and fact-based. Seems like they are letting this play out, instead of trying to steer it.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:11 am to Roaad
Teh report originated on gatewaypundit.com. One of the right wing blogs with the worst track record for spreading lies and misinformation.
Fox News and ABC are the only 2 major news orgs I've seen mention it, and neither really gave much info other than unnamed source.
Fox News and ABC are the only 2 major news orgs I've seen mention it, and neither really gave much info other than unnamed source.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:16 am to Roaad
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All their articles seem to be dry and fact-based
Except there's no proof except what some anonymous person says. Let's see some confirmation. If the officer has those kinds of injuries, a simple photograph of his face would suffice to prove it. Why haven't we seen it? Again, maybe it did happen, but there's no more evidence of it at this point than there is of the other side's claims about what happened to Brown.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:16 am to Roaad
I have been somewhat sceptical of the broken eye socket story. It seems the police department would have released that information early on to get another side of the story out. I can understand why they don't release pictures, to protect the identity of the officer. If in fact the officer was punched I hope they have photos of his face.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:41 am to dante
They didnt release the pictures of George Zimmermans broken nose and bloody head for a couple of weeks either. People need to let the evidence be investigated and presented in a responsible manner. I swear, these protestors wanted the jury, trial and execution all in the same day. These things take time. If this cop indeed have his eye socket broken, it will eventually be released. Let it play out.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:45 am to Buckeye Backer
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They didnt release the pictures of George Zimmermans broken nose and bloody head for a couple of weeks either. People need to let the evidence be investigated and presented in a responsible manner. I swear, these protestors wanted the jury, trial and execution all in the same day. These things take time. If this cop indeed have his eye socket broken, it will eventually be released. Let it play out.
I agree, but one side is accepting as gospel an unnamed source as proof that it did happen (it was referred to as "evidence" upthread,") just like the other side is accepting as gospel the reports of "eyewitnesses" that something else happened. Neither side really knows, and both sides are falling into the Confirmation Bias trap.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:47 am to Roaad
i just watched a segment about the defense of wilson with 2 laweyrs (1 of which was "all in" on convicting zimmerman), that was pretty bad for the "michael brown" side
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:51 am to Roaad
quote:
All their articles seem to be dry and fact-based. Seems like they are letting this play out, instead of trying to steer it.
An anonymous source is "dry and fact based"?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:54 am to SlowFlowPro
The public at large is just ignorant to how investigations are supposed to take place. Releasing key information prior to interviewing all the witnesses will make people change their stories to fit the facts. The more I read about this, the less fault I find with the local police actions. I understand they have some bad history that is likely playing a part in this, but they way they were handling this case was proper, IMO.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:56 am to Jim Rockford
quote:Witness accounts are not proof?
Except there's no proof except what some anonymous person says.
quote:Is the investigation ongoing?
If the officer has those kinds of injuries, a simple photograph of his face would suffice to prove it.
Is it uncommon to not release evidence to the media of an ongoing investigation?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:57 am to Toddy
quote:Yes.
An anonymous source is "dry and fact based"?
Why is it not?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:58 am to Toddy
quote:um...yes
An anonymous source is "dry and fact based"?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:00 am to C
quote:
Releasing key information prior to interviewing all the witnesses will make people change their stories to fit the facts
yes
and just so everyone knows, there are eyewitnesses who are giving stories that cannot be factually true, but they believe 100% that they are being honest about their recollection. memories of people with great memories and intelligence are shite. these are mostly people outside of that elite status
memories are easily manipulated
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the proposed story line that the cop reached out the window, grabbed the 6'4" 300lb man by the neck and pulled him into the patrol vehicle.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:05 am to Jim Rockford
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Except there's no proof except what some anonymous person says. Let's see some confirmation
The news departments know who the source is. They claim it's someone inside the police department. If the police department lied about a completely disprovable fact this city would completely errupt, again. I'm willing to bet the news channels have already seen the photos.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:05 am to C
they actually discussed just that in the interview i referenced in this thread
Posted on 8/21/14 at 8:21 am to Oenophile Brah
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The news departments know who the source is. They claim it's someone inside the police department. If the police department lied about a completely disprovable fact this city would completely errupt, again. I'm willing to bet the news channels have already seen the photos.
That's being pretty trusting of the MSM. Uncharacteristic for the Poliboard.
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