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Would it be justifiable to shoot a police officer if...
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:19 pm
If you did nothing wrong at all, and he stopped you and started illegally patting you down after you don't consent to a search, and you push him away to stop him. Then he gets physical with you to arrest you, would you be within your rights to physically fight back?
And if it came to it... shoot him?
And if it came to it... shoot him?
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:20 pm to PrimeTime Money
Haha, if you shoot a police officer you're getting a Murder 1 charge or you're going to end up dead.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:21 pm to PrimeTime Money
so you have a gun on you and he wants to pat you down and you say no?
you sound like you have that gun on you illegally and you're a pos.
you sound like you have that gun on you illegally and you're a pos.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:22 pm to PrimeTime Money
you had better kill him and all witnesses.Even your friends.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:22 pm to PrimeTime Money
I would say NO.
Somewhere down the line there HAS to be a presumption that these guys are working ON THE SIDE of the law... or the entire system is a waste of time.
Somewhere down the line there HAS to be a presumption that these guys are working ON THE SIDE of the law... or the entire system is a waste of time.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:22 pm to PrimeTime Money
Even if it is justifiable you lose that case 100/100 times.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
His cop buddies will beat the living shite out of you and sprinkle crack on you before taking you into custody.
Or just kill you sight on scene...
Or just kill you sight on scene...
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:28 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
If you did nothing wrong at all, and he stopped you and started illegally patting you down after you don't consent to a search
He doesn't need a warrant or consent for a pat down if he has "cause for suspicion".
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:29 pm to PrimeTime Money
Why did he stop you in the first place?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:29 pm to PrimeTime Money
You'll be justifiably dead broseph stalin
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:30 pm to PrimeTime Money
lol at the responses...
I'm asking in terms of the law... would you have broken a law?
I guess what I'm asking is, if the officer illegally assaults you (which is what an illegal search would be), then isn't he breaking the law?
Don't you have the right as a citizen to defend yourself?
I'm asking in terms of the law... would you have broken a law?
I guess what I'm asking is, if the officer illegally assaults you (which is what an illegal search would be), then isn't he breaking the law?
Don't you have the right as a citizen to defend yourself?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:30 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:That's why I said "doing nothing wrong at all". Meaning, not doing anything to warrant suspicion.
He doesn't need a warrant or consent for a pat down if he has "cause for suspicion".
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
Cops have no right to search or seize my property unless I'm being charged with a crime. If I am carrying a firearm, which I usually am, I do not need to inform the police. That doesn't make me a tpos.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:32 pm to real
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you had better kill him and all witnesses.Even your friends.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:32 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Don't you have the right as a citizen to defend yourself?
No. If a non-uniformed cop high on acid serves a no knock warrant on the wrong address (your house) in a different state and you shoot him coming through your door, you're still going to jail and taking out third mortgages to fund your defense. Just how it is.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:33 pm to PrimeTime Money
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That's why I said "doing nothing wrong at all". Meaning, not doing anything to warrant suspicion.
Can you prove that, while you stand over the rapidly cooling body of a "respected civil servant"?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:34 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Don't you have the right as a citizen to defend yourself?
If a cop is shooting at me, then yes I'll shoot him. That's the only way I would take it that far is if my life is in danger. I know I don't break the law so if a cop tries to shoot me then I will defend myself.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:34 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:Isn't the burden of proof on the state?
Can you prove that, while you stand over the rapidly cooling body of a "respected civil servant"?
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