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What Jurisdiction Does DOJ Have In Ferguson, MO Matter?

Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:50 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:50 am
Honest question.

There has been zero evidence that this was a racially motivated shooting, so I cannot see how the federal civil rights act would grant jurisdiction.

What is the deal?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:52 am to
Its a white mayor in a predominately black town. Ergo, civil rights violation.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:54 am to
51/53 Police Officers are White

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:55 am to
quote:

51/53 Police Officers are White


Which means what?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62368 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:57 am to
Obama/Holder just race baiting. They are the next Al/Jesse..
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28240 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Which means what?


Apparently a lot of black folks in the town don't want to be police officers.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Which means what?


Must mean a town with a population of about 21,000 with 53 cops has a big crime problem. I live in a town of 4,100 and we have 5 cops on staff.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12291 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Which means what?


Which means the town has issues with race.. The town is predominately black.. Let's just get all the facts out there. The racial makeup of the police department in this town is a problem and we are seeing the results play out on tv.. Whether or not a crime was committed by the officer ( I lean towards no with the limited info available) is irrelevant to the majority of the town because the narrative has been set.. A narrative that a blind monkey could have foreseen occurring some day with the power structure in ferguson.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:05 am to
Interestingly the town only became majority black in the last 20 years:

quote:

The racial composition of Ferguson has shifted since 1990, however. In 1990, residents of Ferguson who were identified in the U.S. Census as White comprised 73.8% of the total, while those identified as Black made up 25.1%.[23] (The remainder, 1.1%, identified with other racial categories.) In the 2000 census, 44.7% were White and 52.4% were African American. In the 2010 census, 29.3% were White and 67.4% were African American.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94833 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Interestingly the town only became majority black in the last 20 years:


White Flight is a bitch.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:14 am to
Has the Ferguson Police Department had any federal findings through the EEOC that reflect a desperate impact in its hiring or promotional practices?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31438 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:16 am to
quote:

TOKEN



quote:

51/53 Police Officers are White


ISWYDT
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Honest question.

There has been zero evidence that this was a racially motivated shooting, so I cannot see how the federal civil rights act would grant jurisdiction.

What is the deal?



It doesn't have to be racially motivated.

quote:


Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.


LINK

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61749 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:23 am to
quote:

51/53 Police Officers are White


How many African American applicants have been turned down? Honest question.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31438 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:25 am to
So, tell us what the DOJ's standards are for getting involved in local law enforcement issues, given that almost every (hardly an exaggeration) arrest, shooting or deprivation of property/freedom by local/state law enforcement involves an allegation of willful deprivation of a right or privilege protected by the US Constitution.

Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

So, tell us what the DOJ's standards are for getting involved in local law enforcement issues, given that almost every (hardly an exaggeration) arrest, shooting or deprivation of property/freedom by local/state law enforcement involves an allegation of willful deprivation of a right or privilege protected by the US Constitution.


Spoke with an FBI agent friend...apparently, every FBI office in the country has a few agents that get assigned to deprivation of rights under color of law complaints. It is the equivalent of latrine duty in the military for most - that or your youngest or worst agents typically fill this post.

They investigate a lot of these cases and almost never render a decision against the officer.

That said, it is almost unheard of for the AG to pay any real attention to these matters, but given the high profile nature of this case, that is why Holder has interjected himself.

Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11706 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:57 am to
I'm pretty sure that's the statute the DOJ used to go after the officer's in the Katrina cases.

Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
5975 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:00 am to
quote:

blind monkey




Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:05 am to
quote:

I'm pretty sure that's the statute the DOJ used to go after the officer's in the Katrina cases.


I think that is right
Posted by yumahog
Independence, Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:08 am to
Homesick, I know two of those your talking about. Small world on The Rant.
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