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USB Type-C: A Guide To Technology's Most Important New Standard

Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:16 pm
I thought this was a good read

Forbes Article
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:50 pm to
Meanwhile Apple doesn't give a frick, because cables should cost $30.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 11:18 pm to
I would like to see a comparison to a thuderbolt cable
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:13 am to
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a comparison to a thuderbolt cable


Not the cable, but interface. USB Type-C cable has a pinout to support the USB 3.1 standard of 10Gbps, but if the cables hit the market before the ports do, adapters will limit your type-C cables to USB 3.0 speeds (5Gbps minus about 20%-30% encoding overhead).

The thunderbolt interface (which is not exclusive to Apple, by the way, as the technology belongs to Intel) is 20Gbps for all intents and purposes (Thunderbolt 2). Of course, no mechanical hard drive in the world comes close to saturating the bandwidth of either standard, and TB's bandwidth numbers are less of a selling point than its ability to extend PCIe and support high-resolution monitors or external GPU enclosures. It's just too damned expensive (the implementation and the peripherals) to be as practical as USB. Ironically, Thunderbolt presents security vulnerabilities because of the ability to attach a "malicious" external device that directly interfaces with the lowest level of hardware access -- OS X or not, doesn't matter when the malware already has free access to system memory and can do basically anything it wants, including defeat disk encryption. Firewire had/has a similar risk, and we see how popular that is now (But it didn't die for the security vulnerabilities, but rather lost the popularity contest in a case of standardization trumping innovation).
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:15 am
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:12 am to
It's almost like a rehash of the USB/FireWire fight from 1999.

It's pretty much a comparable tech to Lightning cables right? Maybe these smaller USB ports will result in even thinner MacBook Airs.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27471 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:48 am to
The bigger part of USB Type-C that Thunderbolt doesn't offer is the voltage capability. The ability to power just about any peripheral through it straight from the PC without having a wall connection I think is a big deal.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77940 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 7:54 am to

Correct. 10Gbps + 5 amps >>>>>>>>>> 20Gbps proprietary thunderbolt
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:03 pm to
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The bigger part of USB Type-C that Thunderbolt doesn't offer is the voltage capability.


I forgot about that part, and that is a huge contributor as to why people keep coming back to the USB standard. It can power professional your basic peripherals, condenser mics, hard drives, and hundreds of other shite from gaming peripherals to drink warmers, on top of being able to charge your everyday devices. A lot of motherboards even support USB charging without digital negotiation when the computer itself is off but still plugged in.

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Maybe these smaller USB ports will result in even thinner MacBook Airs.


There will be thinner MacBook airs, but not as a result of smaller USB ports. Plenty more design obstacles internally.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:08 pm
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