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Charges against Perry should wait until he is out of office - agree/disagree?

Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:38 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:38 am
If Perry is willing to waive his right to a speedy trial and willing to waive the statute of limitations such that the clock doesn't run while he is office - the prosecutor should put off the prosecution until Perry's term is up. The legislature is free to take up the issue if they think it needs addressing sooner.

Agree or disagree?
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:43 am to
Charges against Perry should be dropped. He used veto power to defund an office that is apparently incompetent, and therefore a waste of taxpayer money.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:44 am to
I hope not. I want them right away. Based on the facts that Perry threatened to withhold money from an organization he believes to be run by a criminal, I'm interested to see what the rule of law is. What other facts do we need? Can the gov protect the state from local incompetence?
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
2870 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:47 am to
He should fight it now.

This sounds like a pretty bogus charge

It shouldn't be this easy to
blackmail a governor.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

y. Based on the facts that Perry threatened to withhold money from an organization he believes to be run by a criminal, I'm interested to see what the rule of law is.


The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty. Doesn't matter if they are a heinous DWI convict - no such exception is provided.

If PErry gets off it will be because a judge rules the law unconstitutionally vague (it is vague). HE has clearly violated the letter of that law in broad daylight - but is the law a proper law?
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 9:49 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:48 am to
The left-wing scumbags who orchestrated this charade are the ones who need to be charged and put on trial.

Even a lot of liberals are saying this is a joke. But then, you also have the kooks like tuba......
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:50 am to
quote:

The left-wing scumbags who orchestrated this charade are the ones who need to be charged and put on trial.


Or Perry can just yank their funding. Lehmberg was investigating Perry's pet project - the Cancer Prevention Research Institute of Texas - for suspicious grants. The DWI was just a convenient opportunity for him to kill that investigation.


Regardless - I think governors should be immune from criminal prosecution while in office so long as they waive the rights they would need to waive for the prosecutor to take up the charges when they leave office.



This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:51 am to
Doesn’t matter when this democratic circus comes to town. It’s a freaking joke of an indictment regardless when or if its ever adjudicated.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32637 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:51 am to
quote:

coerce


=/= defund via veto
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:51 am to
quote:

The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty.
Is she still the DA? If she is still the DA how is Perry guilty of coercion?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:52 am to
quote:

quote:
coerce



=/= defund via veto



The law makes no such exception - it includes any and all forms of coercion.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94587 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:54 am to
If I'm Perry, I move for a summary judgment to have the charges quashed before this abortion ever goes to trial.

Numerous legal scholars have questioned the validity of the charges and even people on the Dem side of the aisle, such as David Axelrod, say this indictment smells fishier than a mermaid's twat.


Perry and his legal team can easily argue that he was performing the duties of his office and that this is clear political payback for a legal act.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:58 am to
quote:

The rule of law is it is a crime in Texas to coerce a public official in the exercise of her duty. Doesn't matter if they are a heinous DWI convict - no such exception is provided.

quote:

David AxelrodVerified account ?@davidaxelrod

Unless he was demonstrably trying to scrap the ethics unit for other than his stated reason, Perry indictment seems pretty sketchy.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:59 am to
quote:

even people on the Dem side of the aisle, such as David Axelrod, say this indictment smells fishier than a mermaid's twat.


Is that a direct quote? Cause it actually is a pretty accurate depiction.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:00 am to

Where is the line? Is it legal for Perry to sell his veto power to the highest bidder if he likes?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:


Unless he was demonstrably trying to scrap the ethics unit for other than his stated reason,


CPRIT

There's a lot more going on here than Lehmberg's drunken rage.

This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 10:02 am
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28757 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

If Perry is willing to waive his right to a speedy trial and willing to waive the statute of limitations such that the clock doesn't run while he is office - the prosecutor should put off the prosecution until Perry's term is up. The legislature is free to take up the issue if they think it needs addressing sooner.

Agree or disagree?



the charges are ridiculous. they should and will be dropped, but disagree, he "should" be tried while in office.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:02 am to
quote:

he "should" be tried while in office.



He probably doesn't want that. Much more will come to light than is already known.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123743 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:02 am to
quote:

If Perry is willing to waive his right to a speedy trial and willing to waive the statute of limitations such that the clock doesn't run while he is office - the prosecutor should put off the prosecution until Perry's term is up. The legislature is free to take up the issue if they think it needs addressing sooner.

Agree or disagree?

Disagree. If the court system is willing to forward this farce of an accusation, it should follow through as it would with any defendant.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94587 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:03 am to
Selling a veto is clearly corruption and would be chargeable.

Tying the continued funding of an office to the removal of someone would be questionable IF the person involved had no skeletons in their closet and it were clearly due to something they were investigating.

Tying the funding to removing someone who had threatened multiple officials *on tape* with their jobs if they didn't break the law to do what she wanted, though? Negro, please. That bitch should be the one getting charged instead of Perry.
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