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Fears grow in Baghdad that US is abandoning the city to its fate
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:48 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:48 am
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Iraq's political class has watched with fear and envy in the last fortnight as American jets have slowed the Islamic State extremist group's advance towards the Kurdish stronghold of Irbil.
At the same time the group, formerly known as Isis, has been trying to encircle Baghdad – untroubled by air strikes. Its manoeuvres near the national capital in recent days have consolidated gains it has made in the last two months and made the very existence of Iraq in its current borders ever more precarious.
With a new central government only three weeks from being sworn in, Iraqi leaders are imploring the US to honour what they perceived to be an implicit deal to protect Baghdad once an inclusive leadership was installed. They say support for only one side will guarantee the end of Iraq, allowing the insurgents menacing the capital to whittle away what is left of state control and terrorise large numbers of people into fleeing.
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:49 am to carbola
hooray for self-government.
"Weeks, not months"
"Weeks, not months"
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 12:51 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:54 am to carbola
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:44 am to carbola
The Guardian 
You can't tell if its for real or they are just making stories up.
You can't tell if its for real or they are just making stories up.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:59 am to carbola
The Kurds are willing to fight. The Shia outnumber the Sunni 5-1. ISIS shouldn't be able to get anywhere near Baghdad without being wiped out.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:34 am to carbola
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He said Iranian air force pilots were active above Iraq. "I have seen with my own eyes that the Iranians have brought Sukhoi planes," he said. "Everything in that unit is Iranian, including the pilot and the mechanics. They are in Rasheed base, a huge base south of Baghdad … the Iranians make barrel bombs and then use Antonov and Huey planes to drop them in Sunni areas. Some Iranian pilots have been shot down.
"When we go to bomb a place, the ground troops don't accompany us. We bomb a place and kill a few, then Isis disperses, but they regroup later."
I think the boots on the ground in this conflict may very well turn out to be Iranian. I don't think Iran will stand for the collapse of the Shia majority Iraq and the emergence of an oil rich ISIS state on their border.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:10 am to carbola
This is great. Maybe they will realize that they have to win this themselves.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:12 am to carbola
I can't see ISIS taking Baghdad
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:27 am to Tigerlaff
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Maybe they will realize that they have to win this themselves
What a concept!!
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:30 am to carbola
Good, frick that hell hole.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:36 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I can't see ISIS taking Baghdad
nope
they could get picked apart on the highways leading into the city.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:28 am to StraightCashHomey21
ISIS probably can't take Baghdad, but they can cut it off, isolate it and starve the Shia out. They (Shia) outnumber the Sunnis big time they need to get out there and fight.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:47 am to carbola
Good luck, Iraq.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 8:52 am
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:50 am to carbola
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abandoning the city to its fate
That says it all.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:55 am to SpidermanTUba
If Iraq is lost, it's on Obama.
Obama was poised to take full credit if Iraq was a success. In fact, he declared it a success before his re election campaign.
Now that his precipitous withdrawal with no follow up plan for unexpected contingencies has proven unwise, the Obama bots want to go back to blaming Bush.
Heads, Obama wins. Tails, Bush loses. That's the plan?
Obama was poised to take full credit if Iraq was a success. In fact, he declared it a success before his re election campaign.
Now that his precipitous withdrawal with no follow up plan for unexpected contingencies has proven unwise, the Obama bots want to go back to blaming Bush.
Heads, Obama wins. Tails, Bush loses. That's the plan?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:10 am to SpidermanTUba
So, Tuba's response is to post a photo from over 10 years ago, that is devoid of context, to excuse the utter failure of his president.
Typical.
Typical.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:15 am to a want
quote:Detroit says helloooooo!
abandoning the city to its fate
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:59 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:01 am to dante
Isis will have a siege of city. Just like the good old days. Say 1400 years ago or so. should be interesting. They should have blown the dam and wash Baghdad into the Gulf.
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