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Did the black community actually think OJ was innocent
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:43 am
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:43 am
I saw a message earlier about how black people defend their race regardless of the truth and it reminded me of the reaction to OJ's acquittal.
Black people were dancing in the streets. White people were, for the most part, sickened by the verdict.
Is it because they felt like they got one over on "the man"? It seemed like it didn't matter if he was innocent or guilty.
The natural interpretation of those actions would lead some to infer that it's ok for blacks to commit crimes if they were committed against whites.
Black people were dancing in the streets. White people were, for the most part, sickened by the verdict.
Is it because they felt like they got one over on "the man"? It seemed like it didn't matter if he was innocent or guilty.
The natural interpretation of those actions would lead some to infer that it's ok for blacks to commit crimes if they were committed against whites.
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:56 am to inebr8ted tiger
No, it was a symbolic victory over the heavy handed treatment the LAPD in the past. It was probably worth him being set free to move the city forward. LAPD has always had a terrible reputation for planting evidence, racial profiling and unethical behavior.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:37 am to TOKEN
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No, it was a symbolic victory
Thought this was pretty obvious to every freaking one. I'll chalk it up to the op being a ute.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:27 am to inebr8ted tiger
I hate categorizing all black people together, but it ain't exactly a secret that he is guilty.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:38 am to TOKEN
" it was a symbolic victory over the heavy handed treatment the LAPD in the past"
Ahhhhh, the old, two wrongs make a right philosophy.
Of course, this assumes the LAPD was guilty and had overwhelming evidence of guilt.
Should we also just accept a world of, "OK, it's our turn to do the wrong thing".
Ahhhhh, the old, two wrongs make a right philosophy.
Of course, this assumes the LAPD was guilty and had overwhelming evidence of guilt.
Should we also just accept a world of, "OK, it's our turn to do the wrong thing".
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:01 am to inebr8ted tiger
There was no verdict that the jury could have given that would have been satisfying. On the one hand, he was a murderer who deserved to be found guilty. On the other hand, the incompetent handling of the crime scene, evidence, and prosecution in court deserved a not guilty result.
Basically if a murderer goes free, it's an injustice. But if incompetent police/lab/prosecution still win despite these factors introducing reasonable doubt, that's an injustice in its own way and bad for the system.
Basically if a murderer goes free, it's an injustice. But if incompetent police/lab/prosecution still win despite these factors introducing reasonable doubt, that's an injustice in its own way and bad for the system.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:04 am to inebr8ted tiger
Another one of those PT threads that asks a rhetorical question, not meant start an honest debate, but rather serve as sounding board for Angry White Guys express their inner KKK. 
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 7:05 am
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:09 am to inebr8ted tiger
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Is it because they felt like they got one over on "the man"?
IMHO, that was the prevailing sentiment in the black community in Los Angeles. It seems they saw that episode as an "us versus them" situation, as opposed to "did OJ do it."
I don't know that I would apply that sentiment, at the time, to communities across the country, but I do believe that case brought out suspicions about the police that had been simmering under the surface in other areas. It just seems like since the Rodney King and OJ cases, every time a cop shoots a black person it becomes a national issue.
Of course, the Al Sharptons of the world are eager to throw gas on any smoldering embers they believe can be built into raging infernos. Controversy is good for their bottom lines.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:11 am to Qwerty
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There was no verdict that the jury could have given that would have been satisfying. On the one hand, he was a murderer who deserved to be found guilty. On the other hand, the incompetent handling of the crime scene, evidence, and prosecution in court deserved a not guilty result
My Dad summed it up back when he said, "The LAPD tried to frame a guilty man." We live in a country where Casey Anthony and Robert Blake were found not guilty, and those cases were a lot stronger than the OJ case, and lacked the police misconduct of the OJ case.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:14 am to trackfan
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My Dad summed it up back when he said, "The LAPD tried to frame a guilty man."
There's a lot of truth in that. I was upset when I was young during the verdict, but reading about the police and lab issues later in life made me think I would probably have said not guilty as a juror. 
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:17 am to trackfan
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police misconduct of the OJ case.
exactly what was the prime example of 'misconduct' in the OJ case in your mind?
I think the trial was a travesty and they tried to put on too much evidence. They proved OJ guilty 1000 times over, and could have reached that conclusion without the theatrics. Those are procedural miscalculations in my mind, not misconduct.
What did the police do that reaches the level of misconduct in your opinion? - serious question.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:30 am to inebr8ted tiger
What I just can't seem to figure is why is it that the "black" ( or other) community don't just do the right thing, be upstanding, honest citizens and therefore not put themselves in this position of alleged dis-apprpropriate treatment?
Why aspire to alwayes be the victim.
Why aspire to alwayes be the victim.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:34 am to inebr8ted tiger
Casey Anthony case - they had very little forensic evidence against her, just her made up story about a non existent ex baby sitter was crap
they had all the evidence in the world against OJ except an eye witness - the police misconduct was whatshisname detective Furman used the n word in his past life and there was some mishandling of the blood evidence, but there was plenty of other evidence, the Bruno Magli shoes, the purchase of the knife, the fleeing incident
they had all the evidence in the world against OJ except an eye witness - the police misconduct was whatshisname detective Furman used the n word in his past life and there was some mishandling of the blood evidence, but there was plenty of other evidence, the Bruno Magli shoes, the purchase of the knife, the fleeing incident
Posted on 8/17/14 at 7:54 am to Crow Pie
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What I just can't seem to figure is why is it that the "black" ( or other) community don't just do the right thing, be upstanding, honest citizens and therefore not put themselves in this position of alleged dis-apprpropriate treatment? Why aspire to alwayes be the victim.
I think the majority of blacks do.
I wish people would realize that the lower social economic class of blacks (not all) are what is represented in the media in times like this.
Of course these are often the most out spoken and "offended"
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:10 am to Crow Pie
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What I just can't seem to figure is why is it that the "black" ( or other) community don't just do the right thing, be upstanding, honest citizens and therefore not put themselves in this position of alleged dis-apprpropriate treatment?
Do you think Eric Garner did anything to deserve ANY type of force, much less lethal force?
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:42 am to Crow Pie
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Crow Pie
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What I just can't seem to figure is why is it that the "black" ( or other) community don't just do the right thing, be upstanding, honest citizens and therefore not put themselves in this position of alleged dis-apprpropriate treatment? Why aspire to alwayes be the victim.
Pretty sure we all know plenty of fine, upstanding, educated, law-abiding citizens ... who happen to be black.
When I see and listen to these race-hustling, no accountability idiots on NBC's MTP this AM ... it angers and saddens me greatly.
"Poor, young kid ... just minding his own business ... never done a thing wrong ... and this WHITE police officer just guns him down for no reason whatsover ... and IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY ALL OVER AMERICA!" (Note: not one photo of the full grown "kid" was shown ... because everyone knows he is a Goliath.)
Playing the race card is one thing ... the race card plus victim card combo to use one incident to describe an enormous problem on many fronts ... too much.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:51 am to navy
Black people knew OJ was guilty as sin, but they didn't care what the truth was.
The same exact mindset is in play in Ferguson. Otherwise, why would a video showing Brown to be both a criminal and a physically aggressive bully piss them off? I mean, if they were really just interested in truth and justice......
The same exact mindset is in play in Ferguson. Otherwise, why would a video showing Brown to be both a criminal and a physically aggressive bully piss them off? I mean, if they were really just interested in truth and justice......
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:53 am to trackfan
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Another one of those PT threads that asks a rhetorical question, not meant start an honest debate, but rather serve as sounding board for Angry White Guys express their inner KKK.
Yeah, how dare some one mention it or compare a historic event. Racist mofos.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:54 am to trackfan
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My Dad summed it up back when he said, "The LAPD tried to frame a guilty man
That's pretty good stuff. Great way of looking at it that I've never considered.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:01 am to Scoop
Hackfan, the racist anti-Semite, lecturing people on hate.
How ironic (and hypocritical).
How ironic (and hypocritical).
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