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Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:
Posted by saintsfan92612 on 8/16/14 at 10:41 am10
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32. Texans - 24 points
31. Jaguars - 36 points
30. Panthers- 58 points
29. Falcons - 104 points
28. Jets - 130 points
27. Saints - 136 points
26. Bengals - 140 points
25. Bucs - 142 points
24. Ravens - 148 points
23. Seahawks -182 points
22. Chargers -192 points
21. Cardinals-198 points
20. Titans -200 points
19. Chiefs -212 points
18. Bills -238 points
17. Lions -298 points
16. Eagles -330 points
15. Broncos -334 points
14. Patriots -346 points
13. Dolphins -350 points
11. Raiders -396 points
11. Vikings -396 points
10. Browns -430 points
9. Rams -450 points
8. Redskins -482 points
7. Colts -484 points
6. 49ers -540 points
5. Cowboys -568 points
4. Bears -602 points
3. Steelers -622 points
2. Giants -646 points
1. Packers -714 points
Points system:
Super Bowl Championship - 20 points
World Championship - 12 points
Conference Championship - 10 points
Division Championship - 6 points
Playoff appearance - 4 points
Hall of Fame Inductee - 8 points
MVP - 6 points
AP Offensive POY - 4 points
AP Defensive POY - 4 points
32. Texans - 24 points
31. Jaguars - 36 points
30. Panthers- 58 points
29. Falcons - 104 points
quote:
in terms of point-per-year they're possibly the least 'greatest' team in NFL history
28. Jets - 130 points
27. Saints - 136 points
26. Bengals - 140 points
25. Bucs - 142 points
24. Ravens - 148 points
23. Seahawks -182 points
22. Chargers -192 points
21. Cardinals-198 points
20. Titans -200 points
19. Chiefs -212 points
18. Bills -238 points
17. Lions -298 points
16. Eagles -330 points
15. Broncos -334 points
14. Patriots -346 points
13. Dolphins -350 points
11. Raiders -396 points
11. Vikings -396 points
10. Browns -430 points
9. Rams -450 points
8. Redskins -482 points
7. Colts -484 points
6. 49ers -540 points
5. Cowboys -568 points
4. Bears -602 points
3. Steelers -622 points
2. Giants -646 points
1. Packers -714 points
Points system:
Super Bowl Championship - 20 points
World Championship - 12 points
Conference Championship - 10 points
Division Championship - 6 points
Playoff appearance - 4 points
Hall of Fame Inductee - 8 points
MVP - 6 points
AP Offensive POY - 4 points
AP Defensive POY - 4 points
This post was edited on 8/16 at 11:20 am
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by EmperorGout on 8/16/14 at 10:49 am to saintsfan92612
Jim Finks isn't an icon in New Orleans
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by Jake88 on 8/16/14 at 10:55 am to saintsfan92612
The Bucs, Seahawks, Bengals, Titans/Oilers and Cardinals ahead of the Saints is laughable.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by EmperorGout on 8/16/14 at 11:05 am to Jake88
The Bengals and Seahawks both have multiple SB appearances, but yeah there is no scenario in which TB should be higher ranked than NO
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by lsusportsman2 on 8/16/14 at 11:22 am to EmperorGout
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The Bengals and Seahawks both have multiple SB appearances
I'm almost positive the Bengals just have one SB appearance, not multiple.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by saintsfan92612 on 8/16/14 at 11:28 am to lsusportsman2
nope they lost to the 9ers twice
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by Noplacelikehome on 8/16/14 at 12:08 pm to Jake88
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The Bucs, Seahawks, Bengals, Titans/Oilers and Cardinals ahead of the Saints is laughable.
The Saints didn't have a winning season through their first 20 seasons.
The only one I don't really understand is the Bucs.
Cards - in the league for 47 more years than the Saints
Titans/Oilers - in the league for 7 more years than the Saints and have been to the playoffs 21 times.
Bengals - went to 2 superbowls
Seahawks - went to 2 won 1
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by EmperorGout on 8/16/14 at 12:41 pm to Noplacelikehome
The Cardinals are ranked higher than NO because they won two championships in the 20's or something. Kinda ridiculous. They actually have less playoff appearances than NO despite being almost half a century older, too.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by EmperorGout on 8/16/14 at 12:44 pm to saintsfan92612
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Hall of Fame Inductee - 8 points
MVP - 6 points
AP Offensive POY - 4 points
AP Defensive POY - 4 points
This is where it gets stupid. Some HoFers played for multiple teams, and season awards like that are subjective/biased toward big market teams.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by TigerintheNO on 8/16/14 at 12:51 pm to saintsfan92612
1958 Dwight Eisenhower was in the White House, the US only had 48 states, NASA didn't exist yet, and they still hadn't played MLB baseball in California.
Since then the Detroit Lions have won a total of ONE PLAYOFF GAME and they are #17 on the list.
Since then the Detroit Lions have won a total of ONE PLAYOFF GAME and they are #17 on the list.
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re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by EmperorGout on 8/16/14 at 1:03 pm to TigerintheNO
Yeah his formula's fricked
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by Samso on 8/16/14 at 1:09 pm to saintsfan92612
How is Pittsburgh not #1?
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by TigerintheNO on 8/16/14 at 1:12 pm to Samso
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How is Pittsburgh not #1?
they went 31 years without winning a playoff game
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by EmperorGout on 8/16/14 at 1:33 pm to Samso
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How is Pittsburgh not #1?
They were the Saints before the Saints. Pre-1970 Steelers were unimaginably bad. Tampa Bay bad.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by lsusportsman2 on 8/16/14 at 2:04 pm to saintsfan92612
You're right they did lose the Super Bowl twice to the 49ers. Idk how I missed that.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by Scoob on 8/17/14 at 10:12 am to lsusportsman2
quote:I remember the 81 Ken Anderson team, and thinking that was the better team at the time. I think they were favored.
You're right they did lose the Super Bowl twice to the 49ers. Idk how I missed that.
49ers seemed like smoke and mirrors back then. As I recalled, they floundered around a couple seasons afterwards before regaining their stride, although Montana really emerged as a premier QB during that time.
I can't buy into any ranking that has the Giants top 2. Even in their Super Bowl seasons they often weren't considered "great".
edit to adjust the Giant's place, and really, the Pack too. There was a huge stretch between Starr and Favre where they weren't any good.
This post was edited on 8/17 at 10:15 am
How do you keep the Oilers/Titans together, yet separate the Browns/Ravens? Sure, there was an expansion team given that same uniform, but the Raven's lineage traces directly to the "good" version of the Browns. If you go by the actual team, they would be way up there.
I would say go by city, but that would make a mess with NY; you could add conference but then you have cities like Seattle that swapped over (also Pittsburg, Cleveland and Baltimore).
I would say go by city, but that would make a mess with NY; you could add conference but then you have cities like Seattle that swapped over (also Pittsburg, Cleveland and Baltimore).
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by Jake88 on 8/17/14 at 10:23 am to Noplacelikehome
quote:
Cards - in the league for 47 more years than the Saints
Titans/Oilers - in the league for 7 more years than the Saints and have been to the playoffs 21 times.
Bengals - went to 2 superbowls
Seahawks - went to 2 won 1
I've watched the Saints since 1977 so I'm well aware of their first 20 years. The Cards though are one of the worst, if not worst history in the NFL. They've had 47 more years of futility than the Saints.
The Bengals lost two Superbowls. I'd say winning one is leaps and bounds superior to losing two. In fact their is a poster in this thread that couldn't recall if they'd made it to more than one.
Oilers/Titans made one Superbowl and had some "near success" during the 1970's. They are suspect being placed ahead of the Saints. How many Titans fans wouldn't trade their history for the Saints' history and a Superbowl win?
Seahawks? Maybe. I just recall the Jim Zorn years and their history of futility. I suppose their being ahead of the Saints is fair.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by bountyhunter on 8/17/14 at 1:04 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:
1958 Dwight Eisenhower was in the White House, the US only had 48 states, NASA didn't exist yet, and they still hadn't played MLB baseball in California.
Since then the Detroit Lions have won a total of ONE PLAYOFF GAME and they are #17 on the list.
Pretty much sums it up, well done sir.
re: Statistically ranking all 32 NFL teams by all-time greatness:Posted by EmperorGout on 8/17/14 at 1:10 pm to Jake88
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Oilers/Titans made one Superbowl and had some "near success" during the 1970's. They are suspect being placed ahead of the Saints. How many Titans fans wouldn't trade their history for the Saints' history and a Superbowl win?
The Oilers had some great runs that were always foiled by having a conference rival that was their kryptonite - be it Pittsburgh or Buffalo. They were one of the better franchises in the AFL, too.
They have a far better history than TB or Arizona, really.
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