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A huge irony over the outcry regarding Ferguson

Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:33 am
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40959 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:33 am
I bet if you were to gain the consensus of people the most outraged about what's happening in Ferguson, they would be strongly for increased gun control.

Hilariously ironic. Can't have it both ways people.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69211 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:38 am to
Some democratic politicians have come forward and said that police militarization is necessary because Americans are too armed.

Could you imagine past democrats like JFK or Truman saying that? I couldn't.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40959 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:46 am to
I understand the fear of loonies having weapons and shooting at public places.

But for the life of me, how random acts of violence by a crazy person is to be considered more scary than what's happening in Ferguson is beyond me.

I realize I'm somewhat oversimplifying the argument with 2 extremes, but it at least should be considered. Pick your poison basically. I'll keep my firearms, thank you.
Posted by North Texas Tiger
Close to Ft Worth TX
Member since Mar 2004
4797 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 12:56 am to
Case here in DFW Texas where a off duty officer was found to have a weapon at a movie theater and they asked him to leave. Y'all cool with that?
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:04 am to
quote:

Hilariously ironic. Can't have it both ways people.

no it's not. Not having guns makes the police militarized & shoot black people?

you think people should fight it out with the cops?
Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:18 am to
quote:

Case here in DFW Texas where a off duty officer was found to have a weapon at a movie theater and they asked him to leave. Y'all cool with that?


If the Movie theatre wants to have a no guns policy that is their right. Both the first and second amendments protects us from the Government and not private business.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27813 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:14 am to
quote:

Case here in DFW Texas where a off duty officer was found to have a weapon at a movie theater and they asked him to leave. Y'all cool with that?


Why would we not be?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67475 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:27 am to
quote:

Some democratic politicians have come forward and said that police militarization is necessary because Americans are too armed.

I wouldn't say it's because Americans are too armed but the thugs/criminals are too armed.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:28 am to
quote:

Some democratic politicians have come forward and said that police militarization is necessary because Americans are too armed.



I disagree.

But it is true that righties think the right to arm themselves means they have a right to kill government agents they determine to be acting unconstitutionally. So if I'm a government agent going to bust some thug like, oh - Clive Bundy - I'm gonna want to be at least as armed as him and his nutbag buddies.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 6:32 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73401 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:40 am to
quote:

But it is true that righties think the right to arm themselves means they have a right to kill government agents they determine to be acting unconstitutionally
Never ends does it fatboy?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:42 am to
Are you saying the Founders didn't intend you to use your guns to fight domestic tyranny?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73401 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:45 am to
Which is akin to Bundy, fricking brilliant!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123740 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:48 am to
quote:

So if I'm a government agent going to bust some thug like, oh - David Koresh - I'm gonna want to be at least as armed as him and his nutbag buddies.
FIFY.

I'm gonna want to be at least as armed as him and his nutbag buddies . . . . or perhaps, just perhaps . . . . you could quietly arrest him as he's leaving the Kroger unarmed with a handful of groceries?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:53 am to
quote:



I'm gonna want to be at least as armed as him and his nutbag buddies . . . . or perhaps, just perhaps . . . . you could quietly arrest him as he's leaving the Kroger unarmed with a handful of groceries?



David Koresh shopped at Kroger?

EDIT-
You do bring up a good point though. Whenever I read about a SWAT warrant gone bad for something stupid like pot, I always think why didn't they just wait for them to leave the house - then go in, gather the evidence, and leave a uniformed cop or two behind to make the arrest when the suspect gets home? Seems obvious to me.

This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 6:55 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67475 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:54 am to
quote:

David Koresh shopped at Kroger?

He's was a Super Wal-Mart shopper.....had to buy for a lot of folks.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:54 am to
I would think he would use Sam's Club or Costco. You can't run a compound full of armed wacko cult followers without Kirkland Signatures products!
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 6:56 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67475 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:57 am to
Don't be badmouthin' Kirkland stuff!!! They make some badass toilet paper
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 7:10 am to
An armed populace is the epitome of checks and balances. That is why the PTB are so keen to disarm us.

Not everyone will welcome our new overlords, Tuba.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37305 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 7:17 am to
Also ironic that gun sales have skyrocketed this week.

I did my part in helping the cause on Tuesday.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40959 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:06 am to
quote:

no it's not. Not having guns makes the police militarized & shoot black people?

you think people should fight it out with the cops?


You're missing the big picture. The majority that are supremely upset with the level of dominance being displayed by Ferguson's police, SWAT, etc. are heavily for removing the checks and balances power of the 2nd Amendment.
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