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WH.. we knew nothing about arms to Israel
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:15 am
Wow... Just one more thing they read in the paper and one more thing that makes this admin look clueless.
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PS... I'm not against supplying them with weapons.
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White House in the dark over arms supplies to Israel: report
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Israel secured supplies of ammunition from the Pentagon last month without the approval of the White House or the State Department, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.
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PS... I'm not against supplying them with weapons.
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:17 am to darkhorse
How is that even possible?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:18 am to wickowick
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How is that even possible?
This. Yep, just like they have no clue how all of Ghadaffi's old weapons ended up in the hands of ISIS or how crate-loads of American M-16s are being wielded by Hamas.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:20 am to darkhorse
I wonder how much they pay us for them?
O wait
O wait
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:21 am to wickowick
Who knows.. But now.. Obama is demanding a halt to arms to Israel.
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The White House, however, then instructed the Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency and other U.S. agencies to consult White House and State Department officials before approving future requests from Israel.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:21 am to wickowick
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How is that even possible?
it's deranged.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:23 am to darkhorse
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Who knows.. But now.. Obama is demanding a halt to arms to Israel.
That ain't happening esp after we just cut a nice huge check for their Iron Dome.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:24 am to wickowick
quote:The administration didn't know about supplying the mexican cartels with guns bought in America either.
How is that even possible?
Only 3 options:
1. They lie
2. They are incompetent
3. They have no control whatsoever on the daily operation of government agencies.
ETA
4. Things are going exactly as Obama planned.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:26 am to StraightCashHomey21
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That ain't happening esp after we just cut a nice huge check for their Iron Dome.
Great. Glad we could help! Anything else?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:29 am to StraightCashHomey21
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That ain't happening esp after we just cut a nice huge check for their Iron Dome.
Iron Dome is defensive and was therefore explicitly excluded from new restrictions.
To the OP, I don't know exactly how our FMF arrangement with Israel is structured, but it is very possible (probable even) that they receive certain pieces of equipment on a schedule that was already signed off by the DoS at some point in the past. Even if the WH promulgated new policy and restrictions, there were probably loopholes that they could exploit through either the incompetence or complicity of someone(s)in DSCA.
ETA: The event in question occurred in late July. I don't believe the new "line-item" approval process was put into place until the end of the first week in August.
Long-story short, however, the Israeli government has powerful friends throughout our government which has afforded them near-unparallelled access to senior officials in Congress, among appointed officials, and even among career Senior executives.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 11:24 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:29 am to wickowick
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How is that even possible?
Obama neglected to watch the news for a few days?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:32 am to SSpaniel
Based on all this once again why Israel can't trust him.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:36 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Based on all this once again why Israel can't trust him.
Well hes gone in two years. Regardless who is the president in the future I doubt we stop hooking the IDF up with all their stuff which gives them a huge advantage vs whoever in the region.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:38 am to Navytiger74
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Long-story short, however, Israel has powerful friends throughout the government that has afforded them near-unparallelled access to senior officials in the government--in Congress, among appointed officials, and even among career Senior executives.
And this is the bottom line.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:38 am to StraightCashHomey21
IDF needs all the help they can get. I agree but worry about Rand Paul with his head in the sand the McCain types bomb bomb bomb.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:39 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Well hes gone in two years.
Apparently Netanyahu has explicitly stated that he's just waiting Obama's presidency out and isn't interested in patching up their relationship (or that of our two countries) in the interim.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:45 am to Navytiger74
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Apparently Netanyahu has explicitly stated that he's just waiting Obama's presidency out and isn't interested in patching up their relationship (or that of our two countries) in the interim.
Historically speaking, Israel (especially Likud) hates all second-term Presidents, because that's when it becomes harder for AIPAC to apply any pressure on them. It's not a coincidence that the last two Presidents to apply any real pressure on Israel were one-termers. By the way, I have a hunch that Bibi would hate Rand Paul's second term much more than Obama's second term.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:47 am to trackfan
Based on Trackfan's posting then the next Pres should be a help to Israel if he/she wants to get re elected. let's hope so
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:51 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Historically speaking, Israel (especially Likud) hates all second-term Presidents, because that's when it becomes harder for AIPAC to apply any pressure on them. It's not a coincidence that the last two Presidents to apply any real pressure on Israel were one-termers.
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Based on Trackfan's posting then the next Pres should be a help to Israel if he/she wants to get re elected. let's hope so
Sounds like you should have supported Romney...
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:52 am to wickowick
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