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More US Troops to Iraq
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:06 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:06 am
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If I had to guess the guys are a mix of Marine Civil Affairs Group to assess and Marine Special Operations for security. I don't know it works in the Army but in the Marines the civil affairs guys don't actually conduct humanitarian operations. They go in and assess what is needed and what can be provided by the US in terms of assistance. This could very well be a precursor to larger US involvement.
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130 more U.S. military advisers arrive in northern IraqTom Vanden Brook, USA TODAY45 minutes agoFacebookTwitterGoogle Plusmore
AHMAD AL-RUBAYE, AFP/Getty Images
An Iraqi Kurdish peshmerga fighter.
ABOARD MILITARY AIRCRAFT, OVER THE BERING SEA — The military has sent 130 additional advisers to northern Iraq to plan for the evacuation of refugees under siege by Islamist militants, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced Tuesday.
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"This is not a combat boots on the ground kind of operation," Hagel told Marines at Camp Pendleton in California.
The Marines and special operations forces have been sent to the city of Irbil in Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq to assess the humanitarian crisis in the Sinjar Mountains and ways to end it
If I had to guess the guys are a mix of Marine Civil Affairs Group to assess and Marine Special Operations for security. I don't know it works in the Army but in the Marines the civil affairs guys don't actually conduct humanitarian operations. They go in and assess what is needed and what can be provided by the US in terms of assistance. This could very well be a precursor to larger US involvement.
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:11 am to GeauxxxTigers23
MARSOC 
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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for the evacuation of refugees under siege by Islamist militants
pure horseshite. I've got a beach house in Arizona for anyone who believes this.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 7:13 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:13 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Yay we pulled out of Iraq just to go back in and leave more American bodies.
Cops! United States polices the World edition.
Cops! United States polices the World edition.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:15 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I don't know it works in the Army but in the Marines the civil affairs guys don't actually conduct humanitarian operations. They go in and assess what is needed and what can be provided by the US in terms of assistance. This could very well be a precursor to larger US involvement.
So is this just a fancy name for a recon unit
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:19 am to StraightCashHomey21
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So is this just a fancy name for a recon unit
Not really, but most of the Marines in the unit are experienced and mature. It's not a primary MOS. Most are at minimum a Sgt before they join the unit and a lot come from the infantry or other combat arms specialties. It's a place guys like to go to get away from the bullshite of a line unit but still get a lot of deployments and stay in the fight. I seriously considered doing it before I switched to TACP. Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:24 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Gotcha so a special duty.
They will probably be in an out before anyone knows if thats what they are really going in for.
They will probably be in an out before anyone knows if thats what they are really going in for.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:47 am to StraightCashHomey21
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They will probably be in an out before anyone knows if thats what they are really going in for.
They really aren't some secret squirrel unit. In any case. It's pure speculation on my part that that's the guys doing this.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:44 am to C
I've got a beach house in Arizona
Rent to own?
The trick in Florida was to sell land in the dry season.
Rent to own?
The trick in Florida was to sell land in the dry season.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:48 am to StraightCashHomey21
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MARSOC
As an aside...
Marine Corps Times - MARSOC units renamed for the Marine Raiders
I like the historical tie in.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:53 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Book it, there are SOs in there to pinpoint ISIS targets. We need to slam that bunch back under their rocks. No way we sit and let them take over the whole ME...even if Obama's *peacemaker* 
resume is tainted!
resume is tainted! 
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:02 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Should have known as soon as Obama said "absolutely no more troops in Iraq" that we would be sending more.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:12 am to RCDfan1950
Make no mistake about it, ISIS is an international threat. The entire world should take notice of these animals and work to destroy them ASAP.
On another note, I've been listening to HRC (backstabbing Obama) and joining in the GOP chorus about how we should have recognized the moderate in Syria first and armed them. By not doing so we emboldened the extremist (ISIS) to fill the vacuum.
Do people really believe any of this crap? Hillary is such a loser it's pathetic and the whole notion the "moderates" could have defeated Assad is preposterous. I'm not an Obama fan on any level but what was he to do? IMO the US should have sided with Assad from the begining. The radical Sunni are the enemy. By all intents and purposes Assad didn't try to wipe out Christians or any religion. Now, we have helped arm the most well organized and funded extremist group in the world ISIS.
On another note, I've been listening to HRC (backstabbing Obama) and joining in the GOP chorus about how we should have recognized the moderate in Syria first and armed them. By not doing so we emboldened the extremist (ISIS) to fill the vacuum.
Do people really believe any of this crap? Hillary is such a loser it's pathetic and the whole notion the "moderates" could have defeated Assad is preposterous. I'm not an Obama fan on any level but what was he to do? IMO the US should have sided with Assad from the begining. The radical Sunni are the enemy. By all intents and purposes Assad didn't try to wipe out Christians or any religion. Now, we have helped arm the most well organized and funded extremist group in the world ISIS.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:13 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Late 1961-President John F. Kennedy orders more help for the South Vietnamese government in its war against the Vietcong guerrillas. U.S. backing includes new equipment and more than 3,000 military advisors and support personnel.
Interesting how history repeats itself. It's also very sad.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:14 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Should have known as soon as Obama said "absolutely no more troops in Iraq" that we would be sending more.
Every president puts troops places to do shite and no one has any idea.
Boots have already been on the ground. Those 500lb bombs are not calling in themselves.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:19 am to StraightCashHomey21
We have forces working in Northern Iraq that nobody is talking about.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:23 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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has sent 130 additional advisers to northern Iraq
Why the continual use of the word "advisors"? Why not call them what they are?
I know it's not a popular stance, but I'm glad those guys are going in to tear sh*t up. I feel we have a moral responsibility when others just continue to sit on their hands and do nothing.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:50 am to StraightCashHomey21
I know, I'm not against it. I just think it's funny/tragic what a flake our POTUS is.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:52 am to idlewatcher
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Why the continual use of the word "advisors"? Why not call them what they are?
It's a tradition going back to at least Vietnam, if not before.
The idea is that they're supposed to be training the locals (ARVN, Hmong warlords, Pashtun tribesmen, Kurds, etc.) how to fight effectively. That doesn't mean they aren't actively taking part, just that their aim is to be training htem.
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