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MSM coverage is slanted towards AGW denialists
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:47 pm
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In spite of claims that the MSM is part of the conspiracy,
Discuss.
In spite of claims that the MSM is part of the conspiracy,
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30% of fringe climate scientists who say carbon pollution causes little global warming report frequent media coverage, vs. just 15% of mainstream climate scientists
Discuss.
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:49 pm to SpidermanTUba
Please stop
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:51 pm to John McClane
Please go. Isn't that what you really meant?
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:58 pm to SpidermanTUba
Don't worry. Ebola will thin out the herd and we won't have as many exhales to worry about.
It's science.
It's science.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:58 pm to John McClane
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Please stop
he posted a link. It's the guardian not the national enquirer. 
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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he posted a link. It's the guardian
and it was an absurd poll they conducted. It literally isnt worth discussion
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:18 pm to CptBengal
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and it was an absurd poll they conducted.
of course
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It's the guardian not the national enquirer.
Weird. I thought I was reading an Onion article.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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of course
It is a totally subjective poll.
1) They asked GW scientists how often they're "featured" on TV.
2) The definitions of "fringe GW scientist" and "GW scientist" can be subjective.
So yeah, of course.
If you're going per capita (20% coverage of both sides for the total 1,868) you need 43 pro for every 1 "fringe". That's absurd.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:41 pm to Srbtiger06
I dont even bother with his pseudo intellectual act anymore. If he isnt capable of rationally reading the article and understanding the absurdity of the poll, who cares what he has to say.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:49 pm to SpidermanTUba
So, GW alarmists tell us that 97% of climate scientists believe that AGW is a real threat. Those are the "main stream" scientists. So that leaves 3% as the kooks, right?
30% of that tiny fraction of "kook" scientists is nothing compared to the 15% of the "main stream" scientists...again, using GW alarmists own numbers.
20% of how many individuals in each camp?
The people who did this "study" know they're being disingenuous, but they also know the people that eat it up are religious zealots who will believe whatever tripe they throw out there.
30% of that tiny fraction of "kook" scientists is nothing compared to the 15% of the "main stream" scientists...again, using GW alarmists own numbers.
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For example, if 20% of contrarian climate scientists reported frequent media attention, a fair and balanced media would also give frequent coverage to 20% of mainstream climate scientists.
20% of how many individuals in each camp?
The people who did this "study" know they're being disingenuous, but they also know the people that eat it up are religious zealots who will believe whatever tripe they throw out there.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:53 pm to Srbtiger06
It's just one poll, it's not proof of anything, but it's interesting and not something that should just be dismissed immediately without further discussion. I know you don't like what the results were so your agenda is to discredit it any way you can but taking that attitude makes it come across like your agenda is more important to you than anything else and anything that doesn't fit with your biases must be attacked at discredited.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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that attitude makes it come across like your agenda to you is more important than anything else and anything that doesn't fit with your biases must be attacked at discredited.
DS, that is EXACTLY what this "study" did.
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:59 pm to stuntman
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DS, that is EXACTLY what this "study" did.
i don't think that's true at all.
most media outlets are so nervous about being bullied by the right and labeled as "liberally biased" that they sometimes go way out of their way to find some alternative view, even on issues like this where there is broad consensus. It's not surprising to me at all that this study found that the tiny fraction of scientists that are climate change deniers have received an inordinate amount of coverage. If anything I would have expected the discrepancy to be bigger.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
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most media outlets are so nervous about being bullied by the right and labeled as "liberally biased" that they sometimes go way out of their way to find some alternative view, even on issues like this where there is broad consensus. It's not surprising to me at all that this study found that the tiny fraction of scientists that are climate change deniers have received an inordinate amount of coverage. If anything I would have expected the discrepancy to be bigger.
This.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:04 am to SpidermanTUba
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MSM coverage is slanted towards AGW denialists
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:09 am to SpidermanTUba
Anyone that believes in GW is a dumb POS.
The great volcanic outbursts 2000 years ago put more gasses in the air than all carsin history combined.
Just another way you socialist commies are trying to steal grom big business and the common man.
The great volcanic outbursts 2000 years ago put more gasses in the air than all carsin history combined.
Just another way you socialist commies are trying to steal grom big business and the common man.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:10 am to Draconian Sanctions
Inordinate? Remember, this story is about the number of people getting coverage.
30% of 3% of a population is a whole lot smaller than 15% of 97% of a population.
This "study" was 100% meant to give the impression that "more contrarians" were given "more time".
This is the centerpiece of the story, yet says absolutely NOTHING about the time given to these individuals or the actual number of individuals. But it did what it intended to do...give the "impression" that they get "more coverage" than they should.
You're a smart guy, DS. You should be able to see right through this "study".
30% of 3% of a population is a whole lot smaller than 15% of 97% of a population.
This "study" was 100% meant to give the impression that "more contrarians" were given "more time".
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Specifically, 30% of those few who said that greenhouse gases have caused an insignificant amount of global warming (or even cooling) reported frequent media coverage, compared to just 15% of climate scientists who said greenhouse gases have caused strong global warming.
This disproportionate media coverage of fringe climate contrarians is a problem known as “false balance,” and has plagued not only politically conservative media outlets, but also purportedly neutral news organizations like the BBC.
This is the centerpiece of the story, yet says absolutely NOTHING about the time given to these individuals or the actual number of individuals. But it did what it intended to do...give the "impression" that they get "more coverage" than they should.
You're a smart guy, DS. You should be able to see right through this "study".
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:12 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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Just another way you socialist commies are trying to steal grom big business and the common man.
This is my favorite part. Like there is some kind of global conspiracy involving thousands upon thousands of people across vastly different disciplines, backgrounds, and languages in order to defraud the people of the world and use it as a vehicle to establish some kind of global marxist utopia
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 12:13 am
Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Like there is some kind of global conspiracy involving thousands upon thousands of people across vastly different disciplines, backgrounds, and languages in order to defraud the people of the world and use it as a vehicle to establish some kind of global marxist utopia
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