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New Nfl rule hypothetical

Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:39 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:39 pm
Let's say you decide to go for two so they place the ball on the 2 yard line. Then, you snap the ball and do a drop kick. Is this legal or would it be a penalty?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:41 pm to
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would it be a penalty?
depends on if the saints did it
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:46 pm to
No penalty. Your QB being rolled off the field in an ambulance would be punishment enough.

Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:46 pm to
There has been one....ONE....successful drop kick in NFL in the last 60 years.

In my best Cris Carter....COME ON, MAN
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:48 pm to
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There has been one....ONE....successful drop kick in NFL in the last 60 years. In my best Cris Carter....COME ON, MAN
I know but I just started wondering.
Posted by heypaul
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:50 pm to
A drop kick is legal anytime, on any play (from behind the line of scrimmage)

#Thanks Rugby
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 9:52 pm to
If you are electing to go for two - then you are going for two - and working within those set parameters.

Kicking the ball through the uprights wouldn't give you any points...it would be a failed two-point conversion.
Posted by KingBeingking
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:53 pm to
^^^^This
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:57 pm to
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Kicking the ball through the uprights wouldn't give you any points...it would be a failed two-point conversion.



No it's not. You are very wrong.

On a two point conversion, if you fumble a ball and the team picks it up and runs it to their endzone they get two points.

It is a scoring opportunity like every other play in the game.

Dropkick is a scoring play and should be awarded the two points if successful.

This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 11:07 pm to
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On a two point conversion, if you fumble a ball and the team picks it up and runs it to their endzone they get two points.


Not in the NFL. Only in college.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 11:10 pm to
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Not in the NFL. Only in college.



I don't think that's accurate either.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 11:19 pm to
It is, not allowed in the NFL unfortunately.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 11:21 pm to
Well, you're wrong.

LINK

quote:

The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try is over.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 11:22 pm to
The college rule is much better.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 11:28 pm to
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quote:

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The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try is over.


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Correct.


Now this is when I turn this thread into a real question about what is really going on here:

Why in a league so concerned with safety does it coerce the team to take the more dangerous option in making the extra point more difficult?


And how is a dropkick not a scoring play for a two point conversion?
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:07 am to
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And how is a dropkick not a scoring play for a two point conversion?


Try

After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one scrimmage down.

The ball may be spotted anywhere between the inbounds lines, two or more yards from the goal line.

The successful conversion counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for a safety.

The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try is over.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:09 am to
2pt conversion tries are under touchdown rules only
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:19 am to
And to clarify...my response is based on the hypo and new distance for XPs in the preseason.

Under regular circumstances...if you went for "two" and the QB drop-kicked through the uprights - that would count as "one" point...since all trys start at the 2-yard line.

Since the NFL has moved back the XP (for preseason)...the "try" does not have the same starting point - and therefore...if you went for "two" and the two yard line and drop-kicked a ball through the uprights.

You would indeed...get zero points.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 12:21 am
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:30 am to
It would be classified as a failed try and then revert to normal KO rules after a TD
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