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What to do with my ditch or as the HOA refers to them as servitudes?

Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
522 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:24 pm
Corner lot with small ditches on 3 sides. Takes 1-1/2 hours to weed-eat it. Slope is too steep to cut close to it with the zero-turn and the HOA will not allow culverts. I have been spraying a weed killer, but that is only a band-aid.

What say the OB?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55969 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:28 pm to
The normal thing to do is to install French drains with a few catch basins...your hoa may consider that to be a culvert, though....

How much water does the ditch carry?....does it flow or is the water standing?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45788 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:28 pm to
Make it a moat and fill with gators...
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16862 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:31 pm to
Get you some goats.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45788 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:32 pm to
Why would a HOA not allow culverts? That seems very strange...
Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
522 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 4:36 pm to
Many of the neighbors have a tapered lawn into the ditch, but being I am in the rear of the subdivision drains to a retention pond that is too small so water will remain in the side ditch for a few days after a heavy rain. I think the main reason for the "no culverts" with the HOA is the potential for drainage issues, not sure.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:20 pm to
I agree wick strange
Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
522 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:22 pm to
Only other guess is the Northshore Yuppies in the subdivision think it adds a rustic ambiance... But they mostly pay to have their yards done.
Posted by 633tiger
Member since Jun 2007
1230 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 5:50 pm to

Why would a HOA not allow culverts? That seems very strange...

Because open ditches drain better than culverts. Other than it's good looks and ease of grass cutting - 0 reason to fill in your ditches.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6495 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:46 pm to
Reslopw or diesel is ur only option
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13649 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:47 pm to
Push mow it?
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12725 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 7:59 pm to
frick the HOA. The only option.
Posted by WTIGER
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
991 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:10 pm to
Move out of section 8
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:15 pm to
smooth culverts > corrugated culverts > poorly maintained ditches as far a flow.

Even well maintained ditches have to flow through the culverts under driveways and that creates a flow limiting step that negates any advantage a well maintained ditch may have over a culvert.

However, I do agree ditches overflow better than culverts though.






I have a possible solution for your issue. But need some numbers to give you an idea on cost.

how long is each ditch?
How deep is each ditch compared to yard?
How wide is each ditch currently?

Posted by jmkidder
lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
476 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 8:35 pm to
Honestly what's worse that can happen? I've told my hoa to
F off a couple of times it's your property and your wanting to improve it. Do what you want.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:56 pm to
like it or not a HOA contract is a legal binding document. The worst that can happen is a very expensive job, lawyer fees, and a very expensive reversal of previous job.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:20 am to
Yep, the HOA can fine you and even foreclose on you.

Google bad HOA stories and read a few news articles on it.
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7662 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:21 am to
I have a huge drainage ditch next to my house.... its gotten out of hand and the police jury keeps given excuses about digging it out. The only thing that seems to tame it for a while is diesel. its frowned upon but what they dont know wont hurt them. if you payin them taxes and they are not doing what they supposed to do....fk'em.

Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
522 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 8:54 am to
Ditch runs approximately-
Length- 625' feet total. 225' in the front & again in the back and 175' on the side.
Depth- 2', one foot in some areas.
Width- 2'
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 9:20 am
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:49 am to
Usually open ditch laws are the laws of the town. The subdivision was permitted like that and the town will enforce IF they would find out (wink, wink) But you would have to get a permit from the town to get the work done. Unless you get a "friend" to do it without a permit (wink, wink).

I will say this, I THINK the town is responsible for the upkeep of the ditch. I would call them weekly and complain. Get as many complaints on the books as possible. Maybe someone will give in and give you a permit to close at least some of the ditches.

I used to be in a situation like this, but just on side with a ditch. I did some digging and found out it was legal to double the size of your driveway as long as it was a paved area. So I did that as an half-moom park spot in front and it only left about 15 ft of ditch exposed.


BTW....IF you do get someone to cover is, I think there is a law of how many feet is max between catch drains....follow that law in case they ever find out, at least that part would be legal and may entice them to let you keep it in place.
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