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What is view-able by an IT Dept on an iPhone

Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
522 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:36 pm
Getting sick of operating two iPhones, one for work and one personal. The only thing stopping me is the risk of the IT department. It is not like I am doing horrible stuff on the phone, but the company policy is pretty strict on cell phones and I would rather pay for 2 than lose a job over some stupid shite.

What can a normal IT department see on a company iPhone without confiscating it?
Posted by Rabid Tiger
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2003
3694 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:39 pm to
If they are using MDM software (Mobile Device Management) they can see what apps you have installed and track your location.

They can't see your texts. Last i've heard, even the government can't get into iMessage messages. LINK

Mobile Iron, Good, Air Watch are some of the MDM software that is used by companies. You can go on their websites and see what they can do.

If they don't use MDM software, you're good. they really can't see anything that they can't already see in your work email.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by LSUOFFSHORE
Madisonville,LA
Member since Nov 2007
522 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:47 pm to
We use Air Watch. Mainly its the website tracking and phone usage while driving, etc.. that worries me.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14881 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:10 pm to
Apps and location if using MDM. Some track internet history but no txt or email. Not familiar with Airwatch. Ive only worked with Mobile Iron
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted by LSU_postman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
2798 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:17 pm to
Don't look at porn on company assets. It's a really easy way to get fired
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 1:39 pm to
If they're going to manage your phone remotely then just keep a separate phone.

Its not that you're doing anything sneaky. I just think people enjoy privacy.

We don't really use our mobile software for anything except to enforce security policies. Have to use a PIN, auto-lock, wipes phone after x failed attempts, etc.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 2:47 pm to
My employers written policy is that they check for jailbreaking and enforce security (passcode lock). No data monitoring, which seems to be true as I haven't gotten any letters yet.

ETA: We use mobile iron.
This post was edited on 8/9/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8458 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 7:21 am to
Ya'll keep saying they can't see texts. At my company the business owns the phone number and hand us the device. They don't install anything on it that I have seen.

Since they own the number couldn't they very easily see/get the texts? Seems like it would be easy to get the texts for these numbers.

Eta not a iPhone for me but same principle.

This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 7:22 am
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14881 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 7:55 am to
InfoSec/HR, etc cannot see your text messages. Regardless, you have no expectation of privacy on company owned device. Dont conduct personal business on your work phone and you have nothing to worry about.

You dont know what they have installed on that phone before they give it to you. Only way your getting text messages is a subpoena though
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 8:00 am
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8458 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:00 am to
Interesting. I don't do anything I shouldn't on it. But I do carry 2 phones as some text messages are very questionable for work.

Considering I wiped the device when rooting I am pretty sure I know what is and isn't on my ROM.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45685 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 7:26 pm to
Why use a company phone and risk anything? Just use OWA for email on your own phone. Forward the calls to your phone and leave the company phone on the dresser at home.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14881 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Interesting. I don't do anything I shouldn't on it. But I do carry 2 phones as some text messages are very questionable for work.

Considering I wiped the device when rooting I am pretty sure I know what is and isn't on my ROM.



wait you rooted your company phone? Smart idea...

if you rooted the phone your company is not using MDM. Thats one of the first things MDM will detect and block access to, a rooted phone
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9306 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Forward the calls to your phone and leave the company phone on the dresser at home.


This will end well when the company tracks his GPS...
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51416 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:27 am to
The best rule is one that's been stated many times here: don't do personal stuff on our company phone. Avoid the slippery slope by not even going near it. ;)
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45685 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:35 am to
quote:

This will end well when the company tracks his GPS...
Good point. Then just throw it in the vehicle.
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