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Kansas Bow hunt for one buck and one doe.

Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:24 pm
Hunting what is supposed to be a 50 acre tract of hardwoods which is not normally hunted between two crop fields this fall.

The owner has suggested hunting the rut but I wanted to get the advice of the OB when would you hunt?

I do not want to bow hunt during any firearm season so that limits me to one of the two following blocks.

Oct 13-Dec 2
Dec 15- Dec 31

I also have the abliity to hunt Fall Turkey and the season is concominent with the dates I will be there for whitetail.

The rut in the Topeka, KS area is typically Nov 5-20 or so I am told.

So bow hunt pre rut?
during rut?
post rut?


does time of year matter on turkey? I can use archery or shotgun for them.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97607 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:28 pm to
I hunt the rut if that's what the owner suggested, he probably knows more than any of us.


I'd want nothing to do with sitting in a deer stand in Kansas during that last season
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:40 pm to
Whenever he says the rut is, that's when you need to hunt. Don't worry about anything else.

quote:

do not want to bow hunt during any firearm season


Why? The pressure up there is ridiculously low on deer. I went up there during the week-long rifle season (we were pheasant and duck hunting) and didn't hear a rifle shot 3 out of the 4 days we were there.
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

I wanted to get the advice of the OB when would you hunt?


The rut, no question
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:42 pm to
Harder to get a buck to stop for an archery shot during the rut though right? And they break their normal patterns then right?
Posted by TrueTiger07
Madison, MS
Member since May 2007
2314 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:49 pm to
First 2 weeks of November. End of question.
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:50 pm to
You have the option of being able to rattle and what not. I just think hunting when the bucks are as mobile as ever is an advantage in every way. A grunt will generally stop a deer long enough to get a shot off. Not sure how much time you will have up there to pattern them also.
Posted by PhioftheTiger1915
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2014
164 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

A grunt will generally stop a deer long enough to get a shot off.

Not only this, but bucks are also much more aggressive during the rut. They will often come running toward a grunt call which could lead to you getting a buck into bow range that you normally would not be able to.

ETA: You should 100% go during the rut.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:56 pm to
Never shot a buck with a bow. I have killed a doe and several hogs though.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Harder to get a buck to stop for an archery shot during the rut though right?


They are going to move around a lot more during the rut. It's hard to kill him if you don't see him, I don't care how long he stops for.

quote:

And they break their normal patterns then right?


Correct. They move around during the day like crazy.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:58 pm to
Ok you guys have sold me. Early through mid rut it is.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:04 pm to
First two weeks of November are money. They say that after thanksgiving is good too. There is a period inbetween when they go into "lockdown". They will pair up with a doe and just stay with her and breed her for a couple days. They will stay in a wide arse open field. You can see them driving around, but they aren't moving and you can't call them. They have what they want and aren't leaving it for anything.

I've bow hunted west Kansas. It's wide open corn fields for as far as the eye can see. The deer are pretty much dumb compared to around here because of the lack of pressure. I've bleated several bucks to within 5 yards of me on the ground, it's unreal. But 50 acres isn't a lot unless it's a known travel route. I would try and get the farmer to throw out a couple piles of corn for you. It will get them passing through that area for sure.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:12 pm to
What are the ag fields planted in?

I ask because if its something they will be feeding on it sounds like post rut when they are trying to put weight back on may be your best opportunity going in blind

Posted by PhioftheTiger1915
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2014
164 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:25 pm to
Crops are ordinarily cut by the time the rut rolls around, or at least they should be. Therefore, normally the only way a post-rut hunt would be as good as rut hunt would be if you were to hunt near standing crops or crops that were not cut.
Posted by Anton7
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
1135 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

a 50 acre tract of hardwoods which is not normally hunted between two crop fields
this could be where they bed (jackpot if you're careful).... If it isn't and there isn't food left for them to eat it it will be more of a challenge. Your best chance will always be during the rut.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 4:52 pm to
early pre rut, more predictable while still on food pattern.
I have shot many bucks with bow.

eta: early pre rut, not late.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 5:04 pm
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