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Mom Gets Out of Car to Smoke, Is Arrested for Leaving Kids Unattended
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:18 pm
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A mom is in the parking lot with her three tots in the car. She wants to smoke a cigarette so she actually gets out of the car—that's how conscientious she is—and lights up.
Nearby store employees see the children as "unattended." And that is when the cops get involved, of course.
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Whitlow added that, in this particular case, it was not as much a matter of the young children being in a hot car, rather it was the potential for harm or kidnapping that could result from leaving them unattended.
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In a country that believes arresting parents for theoretical far-fetched horrors, yes. Leaving your kids for even a few minutes is a crime. Even if you are nearby. Even if you are consciously uncoupled from them so they don't inhale secondhand smoke. Any second you are not fully and completely "focused" on them, you are committing a crime. Clearly your kids are at huge risk of [the boogeyman] kidnapping, in a public place, during store hours.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
How close was she to the car?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Where did she go to smoke? Why wouldn't she leave the car running and smoke right outside the car?
This doesn't make sense.
This doesn't make sense.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
The pandemonium has begun
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:23 pm to OneMoreTime
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Why wouldn't she leave the car running
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Whitlow said the car was running
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Rabble rabble rabble. But seriously wtf is wrong with this country?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah I read it after I posted. Still, why wasn't she right next to her car?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Wasn't there a parent arrested for letting their kid go to the park alone?
Given the statistical improbability of kidnapping by a stranger, leaving kids alone isn't a big deal. With the way some people are acting, they think that every man is a possible kidnapper and pedophile. Which is a thoroughly unreasonable assumption.
Given the statistical improbability of kidnapping by a stranger, leaving kids alone isn't a big deal. With the way some people are acting, they think that every man is a possible kidnapper and pedophile. Which is a thoroughly unreasonable assumption.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
you left a lot of the story out. She left the A/C off, didn't notice the store employees looking into the car, the employees didn't seem to see her around, only approached the car once the cops arrived, which I would assume was probably more than a few minutes.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:probably scoring dope.
telling officers she was in the vicinity smoking a cigarette.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to OneMoreTime
There has to be more to the story that would prompt someone to call the police.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to crazy4lsu
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Given the statistical improbability of kidnapping by a stranger, leaving kids alone isn't a big deal. With the way some people are acting, they think that every man is a possible kidnapper and pedophile. Which is a thoroughly unreasonable assumption.
[canned response 1]
DO YOU HAVE KIDS?
[canned response 2]
we can tell who doesn't have kids in this thread
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
read the story, the mom was does not appear to have been right by the car. It seems that she walked off.
I agree that people can be crazy in this country, but had this mom had a heart attack, or something else happen to her while she was away from the vehicle, who would know to go care for her kids. Same as leaving kids alone at home while just going to the corner store. As a parent these are the things I have thought of.
If she left the immediate area, I have no problem with the charges, if she was standing right there, then yeah, someone was being stupid for arresting her.
I agree that people can be crazy in this country, but had this mom had a heart attack, or something else happen to her while she was away from the vehicle, who would know to go care for her kids. Same as leaving kids alone at home while just going to the corner store. As a parent these are the things I have thought of.
If she left the immediate area, I have no problem with the charges, if she was standing right there, then yeah, someone was being stupid for arresting her.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to OneMoreTime
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Yeah I read it after I posted. Still, why wasn't she right next to her car?
No ones gonna steal a car with a baby in it
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:27 pm to Hermit Crab
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She left the A/C off
disputed, and irrelevant
Whitlow added that, in this particular case, it was not as much a matter of the young children being in a hot car,
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didn't notice the store employees looking into the car, the employees didn't seem to see her around, only approached the car once the cops arrived, which I would assume was probably more than a few minutes.
even accepting this slanted version as true...and?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:28 pm to novabill
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but had this mom had a heart attack, or something else happen to her while she was away from the vehicle, who would know to go care for her kids
if she had a heart attack in the car in the parking lot, who would know to go care for her kids?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is the problem with a society that rejects public shaming as cruel but embraces nanny-state criminal enforcement.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Whitlow noted that while Tabor might have been in close proximity, she did not appear to have been focused enough to notice the store’s employees standing by her vehicle.
How hard is it to smoke and keep an eye on your car that has your children in it?
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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disputed, and irrelevant
eh...it's not really irrelevant
if I see a group of toddlers sitting in a car with no A/C and no adults around, I'm probably going to wait 5 or 10 minutes then call the cops
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