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Mom Gets Out of Car to Smoke, Is Arrested for Leaving Kids Unattended

Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:18 pm
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A mom is in the parking lot with her three tots in the car. She wants to smoke a cigarette so she actually gets out of the car—that's how conscientious she is—and lights up.

Nearby store employees see the children as "unattended." And that is when the cops get involved, of course.


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Whitlow added that, in this particular case, it was not as much a matter of the young children being in a hot car, rather it was the potential for harm or kidnapping that could result from leaving them unattended.


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In a country that believes arresting parents for theoretical far-fetched horrors, yes. Leaving your kids for even a few minutes is a crime. Even if you are nearby. Even if you are consciously uncoupled from them so they don't inhale secondhand smoke. Any second you are not fully and completely "focused" on them, you are committing a crime. Clearly your kids are at huge risk of [the boogeyman] kidnapping, in a public place, during store hours.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:20 pm to
How close was she to the car?
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:22 pm to
Where did she go to smoke? Why wouldn't she leave the car running and smoke right outside the car?
This doesn't make sense.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:22 pm to
The pandemonium has begun
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:23 pm to
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Why wouldn't she leave the car running

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Whitlow said the car was running
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:24 pm to
Rabble rabble rabble. But seriously wtf is wrong with this country?
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:24 pm to
Yeah I read it after I posted. Still, why wasn't she right next to her car?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:24 pm to
Wasn't there a parent arrested for letting their kid go to the park alone?

Given the statistical improbability of kidnapping by a stranger, leaving kids alone isn't a big deal. With the way some people are acting, they think that every man is a possible kidnapper and pedophile. Which is a thoroughly unreasonable assumption.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7161 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:25 pm to
you left a lot of the story out. She left the A/C off, didn't notice the store employees looking into the car, the employees didn't seem to see her around, only approached the car once the cops arrived, which I would assume was probably more than a few minutes.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to
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telling officers she was in the vicinity smoking a cigarette.
probably scoring dope.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to
There has to be more to the story that would prompt someone to call the police.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421188 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Given the statistical improbability of kidnapping by a stranger, leaving kids alone isn't a big deal. With the way some people are acting, they think that every man is a possible kidnapper and pedophile. Which is a thoroughly unreasonable assumption.

[canned response 1]

DO YOU HAVE KIDS?

[canned response 2]

we can tell who doesn't have kids in this thread
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to
read the story, the mom was does not appear to have been right by the car. It seems that she walked off.

I agree that people can be crazy in this country, but had this mom had a heart attack, or something else happen to her while she was away from the vehicle, who would know to go care for her kids. Same as leaving kids alone at home while just going to the corner store. As a parent these are the things I have thought of.

If she left the immediate area, I have no problem with the charges, if she was standing right there, then yeah, someone was being stupid for arresting her.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112195 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Yeah I read it after I posted. Still, why wasn't she right next to her car?


No ones gonna steal a car with a baby in it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:27 pm to
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She left the A/C off

disputed, and irrelevant

Whitlow added that, in this particular case, it was not as much a matter of the young children being in a hot car,

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didn't notice the store employees looking into the car, the employees didn't seem to see her around, only approached the car once the cops arrived, which I would assume was probably more than a few minutes.

even accepting this slanted version as true...and?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421188 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:28 pm to
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but had this mom had a heart attack, or something else happen to her while she was away from the vehicle, who would know to go care for her kids

if she had a heart attack in the car in the parking lot, who would know to go care for her kids?

Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79070 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:28 pm to
This is the problem with a society that rejects public shaming as cruel but embraces nanny-state criminal enforcement.

Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:28 pm to
That is just retarded.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Whitlow noted that while Tabor might have been in close proximity, she did not appear to have been focused enough to notice the store’s employees standing by her vehicle.



How hard is it to smoke and keep an eye on your car that has your children in it?



Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83514 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

disputed, and irrelevant


eh...it's not really irrelevant

if I see a group of toddlers sitting in a car with no A/C and no adults around, I'm probably going to wait 5 or 10 minutes then call the cops
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