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Serious questions about spending priorities at LSU.

Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:02 am
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6567 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:02 am
Please use your internet anonymity to be completely honest here. I am interested in the answers.

Do you, as an LSU fan and TD poster, really care about anything that happens on the academic side of LSU?

Does it bother you that state funding has put LSU into a giant hole financially that it is having to dig its way out of? Do things like faculty salaries even make a blip on your radar screen?

Do you care that there are academic buildings on campus with the ceilings caving in, that can be fully renovated for $15 million, but we just spent $90 million on a new south endzone? (Please spare me the speeches about return on investment, I know all of that.)

I'm just asking if you care, or if you think academics and athletics are completely separate universes. If athletics is all you care about, it's okay to admit.
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7538 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:03 am to
This should end well
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28255 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:03 am to
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Do you care that there are academic buildings on campus with the ceilings caving in, that can be fully renovated for $15 million, but we just spent $90 million on a new south endzone?


How much of that did TAF pay for?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20848 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:04 am to
quote:

I'm just asking if you care, or if you think academics and athletics are completely separate universes. If athletics is all you care about, it's okay to admit.



I care about LSU's academic quality. I also know that the massive profitability of the football program enhances that quality.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:05 am to
I care about Net Income, and that is all I care about.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41524 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:05 am to
I care about those things. I don't like to see my university in the condition it's in now but that should be changing within the next few years with the larger freshman classes year after year for the past few years. Record enrollment numbers = more funding.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:05 am to
Your opinion is showing..
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39161 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:05 am to
The TAF pays for stadium renovations. It doesn't come out of tuition.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
21363 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:05 am to
My thoughts:

GFY. DIAF.

Once the art department can produce something that can support itself, then they can have a new ceiling.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7161 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:05 am to
I care about both, but not as much about the academics anymore. The thing about the spending on athletic facilities is that it is money raised primarily by TAF that is set aside for specific athletic purposes, not academic.

Although the atheltic department and academic department share a campus and name, they are about as separate as they can possibly be while still maintaining NCAA eligibility.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:05 am to
The new Animal and Food Sciences Building looks nice.



Also, remember, LSU is not just LSU Baton Rouge.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:06 am to
The athletic department is completely self-sufficient and donates a lot of money to the school.

Not their fault the school can't use that money to repair its facilities the way the athletic department does.

Why did we need a new Business school? CEBA isn't bad. Money would have been better spent rehabbing that.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:06 am to
1. The south endzone expansion will soon pay for itself with the added suite revenue.
2. The renovations for that caved-in building are already planned.
3. Funding for athletics does not come from the state. Athletics is entirly self-sustaining and also supports the university financially on top of that.
4. I care very much about the state of academics as well as athletics and plan to contribute to the department i graduated from for years to come.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66376 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Serious questions about spending priorities at LSU. My thoughts: GFY. DIAF. Once the art department can produce something that can support itself, then they can have a new ceiling


Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:07 am to
quote:

The athletic department is completely self-sufficient and donates a lot of money to the school


And is one of the few in the nation that does
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:07 am to
I care about the academics side but LSU is never going to be Vanderbilt. If they can continue to maintain Tier 1 research status, along with ranking somewhere around top third of public universities, LSU should consider that a win.

The way this state's budget is allocated for Education is embarrassing but not far fetched if you look at the public school system in BR Metro.

With that said, LSU should prioritize a few academic disciplines, such as sciences, business or mathematics instead of a jack of all trades college if they want to excel. We don't have the resources to be great at everything.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23154 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Once the art department can produce something that can support itself, then they can have a new ceiling.


Well they are getting it, so I guess they support themselves
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14509 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Why did we need a new Business school? CEBA isn't bad. Money would have been better spent rehabbing that

Because they were getting kicked out. Taylor was designated to become engineering only and they had to find the cash to give business school a place.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37355 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:11 am to
frick the art students. Give the science, business, and engineering students everything possible for them to succeed. If some dopehead art frick wants anything, tell him to make something of his life and then he can reap the benefits from the university.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6567 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 10:11 am to
Look, I struggle with these questions myself. But my daughter starts LSU in 2 weeks, and I'm thinking more about this. Perhaps I've gotten more crotchety in my old age.

I know where the money comes from. I know all that. And sorry to sound like a liberal faculty senate member here (because I'm not), but does the disparity of the money spent illustrate that our priorities are monumentally out of whack?

I don't know.
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