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Rand Paul = Democrats’ Enemy #1

Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:03 am
Posted by a want
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:03 am
Daily Beast

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The senator’s broad appeal threatens to weaken Democrats for 2016, and they are going on offense—sending out no less than 10 press releases on his latest trip to Iowa.

Democrats fundraiser and campaign by exploiting concerns about right-wing extremism. But at least at the moment, what they apparently fear most is the rise of a candidate who could potentially poach enough of their supporters to beat them in 2016. -


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Democrats began hitting Paul on Monday morning, first for fundraising with Iowa Rep. Steve King, who has entertained the idea of exploring impeachment (something Paul has said he would not consider); next for claiming he never proposed ending foreign aid to Israel (which he openly supported doing for years); and then for saying Republicans don’t want to ban birth control and that he is “in favor of the concept” of a federal ban on gay marriage.

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The most fun the DNC had, understandably, was with an incident that took place at a Monday-night fundraiser with King, when Paul was caught on video getting up—mid-bite into his hamburger—and practically running away from two immigration activists. (He gets an everyman point for taking his drink with him.)

The DNC snarked that the senator’s swift exit was a “profile in courage” and later sent out an email detailing some of the best headlines the moment generated, including “Rand Paul Flees in Terror from Mexican Immigrant,” and “Watch Rand Paul Run for His Life Before Steve King Insults an Immigrant in Iowa.”


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“He’s working not to get out of the conservative box but to redefine it,” Simon Rosenberg, president of the New Democrat Network, told The Daily Beast. If Paul gets the nomination, he becomes the effective leader of his party—meaning his redefinition of that conservative box could become the definition, a problem for Democrats, as Paul has a tendency to stake out atypical positions for a conservative and reach across party lines.


It's also a problem for establishment GOP.
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The Democrats’ strategy to defeat Paul seems to be to engage him as he tries to gain experience, with the hope that he’ll misspeak his candidacy to death before it gets off the ground. “This is smart politics for the Democrats,” Rosenberg told The Daily Beast. “What you want to do as opposition is you want to go after the candidates when they’re inexperienced…We saw a deeply inexperienced candidate [in Iowa]...and a lot of early scrutiny could really weaken him.” Or so the left is hoping.

This is what I've been saying. If he can maintain discipline, he has a shot.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 8:05 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:05 am to
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If he completely sells out to the Fascists who own this country, he has a shot.
FIFY
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:06 am to
He's the GOP's only viable option.
Posted by jamboybarry
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:11 am to
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It's also a problem for establishment GOP


Which will IMO go after him with more venom than any Dem could hope of.

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This is what I've been saying. If he can maintain discipline, he has a shot


He is clearly maturing as a "candidate". This most visible from the exchange on MSNBC regarding his civil rights act comments. Sadly, elections are won on soundbytes and you can't afford to have a macaca moment before the campaign really begins.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:11 am to
The irony in this post is that not only is he Democrats biggest enemy, he is the Republicans biggest enemy!!! Just wait until the campaign begins. Republicans will tear him apart because he is too much like the President in foreign policy! A guy who draws hate from both sides, well that sounds good to me! Rand Paul 2016!!
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:13 am to
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If he can maintain discipline, he has a shot.



After 8 years of this disastrous presidency I'd think anyone has a shot. Hell just Obama's getting elected in the first place shows anyone has a shot.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:15 am to
The Dems will slam whomever they fear the most. For now, it's Paul; but there will be a ton of change in two years. God only knows what will come down with the feckless Obama a the helm. Obama...is their worst problem.

Re the Immigration thing...Rush nailed it yesterday. Obama feigns action (amnesty) and the Dems falsely try to spook the R's into passing a Bill...because both know that the American people are AGAINST it...and whomever has their name attached to it...faces electoral suicide. Just like they needed Bush to sign that massive '08 bailout...so Obama wouldn't have to bear responsibility.

Paul ought to step up and say as much. NO REFORM of any kind...until that Border is in LOCKDOWN. Period. And not the Obama version of 'period'.
Posted by jamboybarry
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:18 am to
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he is too much like the President in foreign policy!


Posted by a want
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:19 am to
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This most visible from the exchange on MSNBC regarding his civil rights act comments. Sadly, elections are won on soundbytes and you can't afford to have a macaca moment before the campaign really begins.

Yeah, he was great on Meet the Press a few weeks ago. It's just a really, really long campaign. Unfortunately, the presidential race has become a "who gaffes the least" contest. It's really hard to be the front runner for 2 years.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:23 am to
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The Dems will slam whomever they fear the most


And so will the Republicans, and in this case its Rand Paul
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:25 am to
The only attack of merit is his flip flop on aid to Israel. The fleeing the immigrant thing is crap but most people will gobble up the MSM bullshite and not watch the video to see that the press was right there and it was obvious they asked him to go with them so he got up and left.

When did Paul say he supported a ban on gay marriage? I've never seen him say that anywhere
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:28 am to
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Unfortunately, the presidential race has become a "who gaffes the least" contest. It's really hard to be the front runner for 2 years.


Agree.

Clinton came from nowhere as did BHO. I've been saying its the candidates who come from left/right field late in a contest gather momentum and avoid much of the funding and vetting raised against you.

Hope he does well. Looking forward to seeing how he handles it all.

Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:30 am to
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Republicans will tear him apart because he is too much like the President in foreign policy

Lololololololol
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:34 am to
He didn't flip flop, he refused to say he's targeting ending aid to Israel. Semantics.

He's taking a state stance on social issues for the time being.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:52 am to
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The fleeing the immigrant thing is crap but most people will gobble up the MSM bullshite and not watch the video to see that the press was right there and it was obvious they asked him to go with them so he got up and left.

I think he may have been more afraid of what King was going to say than he was of what the two Hispanics were going to ask. Paul may have talked to them if he had been there by himself. Paul has taken questiions from random students at Howard and Berkeley, so why would he be afraid of taking questions from two random Hispanics? He knows King is a birther and a loose canon but he needs Iowa.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:56 am to
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He didn't flip flop, he refused to say he's targeting ending aid to Israel. Semantics.

Let's be honest. Isn't that like Bill Clinton parsing the meaning of the word "is"? When he's asked if he wants to cut off aid to Israel, he should answer, "I said I want to cut off aid to all foreign countries, I never singled out Israel."
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 8:57 am
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:01 am to
I will never understand how people can be such staunch supporters of Israel.

Jews? Sure. But Israel? Those frickers do NOT have our best interests at heart. They just feast off our teat, dictate our foreign policy, and subvert democracy.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:04 am to
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They just feast off our teat, dictate our foreign policy, and subvert democracy.


Are we talking about all the arab countries of the region who also get our aid and money?
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:04 am to
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I will never understand how people can be such staunch supporters of Israel.

Jews? Sure. But Israel?

Because many folks, including some on this board believe Jews = Israel.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:05 am to
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Are we talking about all the arab countries of the region who also get our aid and money?



No. I'm talking about Israel. But I'd love if we cut out foreign handouts. My money should stay in my country.
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