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Message for our American Jewish Friends.

Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:08 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:08 am
Your fellow Progressive Liberals of the US Democrat Party are increasingly anti-Israel. They are incrementally shifting their support towards the Palestinian view.

The same thing goes for the US and international Left.

Do these facts deserve some friendly and thoughtful consideration and discussion?

This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:11 am to
my jewish classmates at Tulane were fiscally conservative...they were pissed that disgraced chick from the EPA was speaking at our graduation.

go wave
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:13 am to
This is categorically a stupid thing to say and to insinuate.

It is fear-mongrels like you that don't need to be heard from on sensitive subjects like these.

AND, you are a coward.

Why not just come out and say what you think? Tell them based on your twisted logic, that all Jews are at risk of another genocidal attempt on their ethnicity, this time by America.

Very sad, obscene, and insensitive statement to make. Sow your seeds of hate and discord elsewhere.

Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10037 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:14 am to
I'm not anti-Israel.

I am I do not give a flying frick about Israel or their enemies.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Your fellow Progressive Liberals of the US Democrat Party are increasingly anti-Israel. They are incrementally shifting their support towards the Palestinian view.

The same thing goes for the US and international Left.

Perhaps these facts deserve some friendly and thoughtful consideration and discussion.


Add to this, American Jews will continue to donate the Democrat party at massive rates.

Get this, congress overwhelmingly passes funding for Israel's Iron Dome. So overwhelmingly that it's veto proof. Now, if the Iron Dome funding project were funded with a simple majority Obama would veto it in a second. But since it's veto proof Obama will either sign the bill or let it sit and it will automatically become law after 30 or so days. The point is, Obama can say he's for the state of Israel by claiming support for the Iron Dome when it is clear as day he hates Israel but the American Jew will continue to donate to the party that wants to see them destroyed. Stockholm Syndrome is real.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Very sad, obscene, and insensitive statement to make.


I merely posed a question.

YOU are making the statements.

Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:19 am to
Omg someone listens to Sean hannity
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

I merely posed a question. YOU are making the statements.


Like I said, you're a coward.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:22 am to
Well, GumboPot, if the US Congress passes a veto proof funding bill for Israel's Iron Dome, I'd say that this is a strong move of support for Israel that both Repubs and Democrats support.

So, American Jews can take some solace in that.

I am sensing, however, that times might be changing.

The Left is increasingly anti-Israel and anti-Jewish all across the world, IMHO. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:23 am to
Judaism does not equal Zionism
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Like I said, you're a coward.




Your conclusory statement is unsupported by objective evidence. As such, it is as unpersuasive as any other ipse dixit argument might be.

You may have fulfilled some self-esteem objective by making the ipse dixit argument, so, I suppose that some purpose has been served.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 9:25 am
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:24 am to
Why should this country fund Israel? They are siting on trillions of cubic feet of natural gas.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57832 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

This is categorically a stupid thing to say and to insinuate. It is fear-mongrels like you that don't need to be heard from on sensitive subjects like these. AND, you are a coward. Why not just come out and say what you think? Tell them based on your twisted logic, that all Jews are at risk of another genocidal attempt on their ethnicity, this time by America. Very sad, obscene, and insensitive statement to make. Sow your seeds of hate and discord elsewhere.



Well obviously from your rebuttal you are the rational unbiased one!
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Judaism does not equal Zionism


I agree, but, I do not agree that this nuance is going to be meticulously observed by everyone who votes Democrat and opines on the merits of these issues.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:26 am to
quote:

EthanL


Are you this critical of Obama when he engages in fear mongering? You know some of the statements he made about defaulting on our debt if the debt ceiling was not raised, for example?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Your fellow Progressive Liberals of the US Democrat Party are increasingly anti-Israel. They are incrementally shifting their support towards the Palestinian view.

The same thing goes for the US and international Left.

Perhaps these facts deserve some friendly and thoughtful consideration and discussion.


I personally know many pro-Israel "Zionist" Jews who are still capable of being critical of the Israeli government while not considering themselves anti-Israel. I'm strongly pro-Israel and I have serious reservations about their current tack.

All you guys do is bitch about our government. Do you hate America?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:29 am to
quote:

The Left is increasingly anti-Israel and anti-Jewish all across the world, IMHO. Perhaps I'm wrong.



You're not wrong. Jew hate is spreading and spreading quick.

The White House is totally sympathetic to the Hamas cause. And let's not beat around the bush in defining that cause. It's total elimination of the state of Israel and the Jewish people.

It's easy to see the source of the Hamassian sympathies from the White House. It's coming from that Iranian Valerie Jarrett and our Muslim raised president.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:30 am to
quote:

All you guys do is bitch about our government. Do you hate America?



Is this statement and this question directed to me?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Is this statement and this question directed to me?


Sure.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10037 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

You're not wrong. Jew hate is spreading and spreading quick.

Jew hate? How about hate for elitist welfare? Israel has enough to fight their own fight. Tell me why I should give one frick about any of these assholes who have been fighting for sixty some odd years?
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