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Ebola scare. should we ALL be worried?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:31 pm
How does two doctors get sick and die from this? Is this a new and powerful strain? Wouldn't they have been wearing the proper equipment and taken the proper precautions necessary to not contract the virus?
Also the question has come up about transporting the bodies back here. Is this the smartest course of action? Common sense tells you no as we seem to know very little about Ebola. The bodies might still carry the virus actively.
Also the question has come up about transporting the bodies back here. Is this the smartest course of action? Common sense tells you no as we seem to know very little about Ebola. The bodies might still carry the virus actively.
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Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:34 pm to LarrytheGolfer
Since health care in America is not national, I think we are more at risk than say a country like France. Some low income person that gets it is not going to do anything about it because of the cost.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:34 pm to LarrytheGolfer
Its not bodies, they are still alive. But I am with ya, hate to be harsh but there asses can stay there until they get better or dies, diff dont need that shite over here.
Another thing that makes this scary and I wasnt aware of was it can be passed through sweat.
Another thing that makes this scary and I wasnt aware of was it can be passed through sweat.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:35 pm to LarrytheGolfer
Watching news now that says the 2 stricken physicians are being medivac-ed back to the US. Hope they survive and that they keep this virus contained.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:37 pm to BestBanker
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2 stricken physicians are being medivac-ed back to the US.
Stupid as hell if you ask me. Have to give the BOB a look over.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:44 pm to GREENHEAD22
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2 stricken physicians are being medivac-ed back to the US.
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Stupid as hell if you ask me.
meh...it really isn't that difficult to contain..IN FIRST WORLD CONDITIONS.
The virus is pretty large and not going to be able to be air borne.
I don't know if the two contracted it by carelessness (sometimes experience relieves FEAR and lets people take chances) or simply because of the pitiful conditions there vs an American quarantine / sanitation.
I'm not scared of the med-evac. But, I find it pretty reckless that the father of two put himself in that position. Sorry, i don't do the "Awww, how brave and giving" routine.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:45 pm to LarrytheGolfer
You're killing your father Larry
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:48 pm to Vols&Shaft83
It's been a slow news week. The media have to put out some type of scare tactic to keep people watching
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:48 pm to LarrytheGolfer
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Also the question has come up about transporting the bodies back here. Is this the smartest course of action? Common sense tells you no as we seem to know very little about Ebola. The bodies might still carry the virus actively.
According to Wikipedia (yeah I know) it does not travel through the air. You have to come into contact with infected bodily fluids. Our healthcare system is 1000 times better than what they have in Africa, should be no problem bringing the sick home for their last days.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:49 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Old Hellen Yeller
BRILLIANT
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:53 pm to LarrytheGolfer
quote:Ebola has a 90% fatality rate I believe. It kills so fast that it is unlikely to reach pandemic proportions. I am not worried. If you do a lot of international travel then I would probably be a bit worried.
Ebola scare. should we ALL be worried?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:54 pm to LarrytheGolfer
no. it requires fluids to be exchanged. Don't sleep with any natives of central africa and you should be good.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:00 pm to LarrytheGolfer
Nope.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:00 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:No. It requires fluid exposure. Big difference.
no. it requires fluids to be exchanged
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:01 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Sorry, i don't do the "Awww, how brave and giving" routine.
two thumbs up!
two thumbs up!
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:01 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:That's one way to get it. Other contact can do it too.
no. it requires fluids to be exchanged. Don't sleep with any natives of central africa and you should be good.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:09 pm to LarrytheGolfer
The short answer is "no". It's not a very communicable disease. The only catch is that the bodies still carry live virus for a little while after the victims are deceased.
Otherwise, here's what you know about Ebola:
1. It's only killed about 1600 people in 40 years.
2. West African and international aid efforts were able to successfully contain it--in the 1970s.
3. Our preventative protocols are light-years beyond Africa's--today and as of the 1970s.
4. It is not thought to be communicable in incubation. So if someone isn't showing signs, they aren't contagious (limits the whole "a person without an obvious infection contaminating an entire flight").
5. It requires close/intimate contact--with fluids found in blood, bloody vomit, and bloody stool. It is also present in sweat and saliva, but not thought to be in concentrations high enough to transmit.
6. Most of the infected are family members/caretakers, medical professionals, and mortuary staffs.
7. FLight crews that travel to that part of the world are trained to look for signs of infection of Ebola and a host of other diseases, and have quarantine protocols for transnational flights.
Otherwise, here's what you know about Ebola:
1. It's only killed about 1600 people in 40 years.
2. West African and international aid efforts were able to successfully contain it--in the 1970s.
3. Our preventative protocols are light-years beyond Africa's--today and as of the 1970s.
4. It is not thought to be communicable in incubation. So if someone isn't showing signs, they aren't contagious (limits the whole "a person without an obvious infection contaminating an entire flight").
5. It requires close/intimate contact--with fluids found in blood, bloody vomit, and bloody stool. It is also present in sweat and saliva, but not thought to be in concentrations high enough to transmit.
6. Most of the infected are family members/caretakers, medical professionals, and mortuary staffs.
7. FLight crews that travel to that part of the world are trained to look for signs of infection of Ebola and a host of other diseases, and have quarantine protocols for transnational flights.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:12 pm to Navytiger74
And yet they're saying that over 700 people have died from it. Can it all be family, mortuary workers, etc. or is sheer ignorance of the facts of the disease contribute to the large numbers? And how in the world would highly trained doctors get it and die from it?!?! 
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:19 pm to conservativewifeymom
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And yet they're saying that over 700 people have died from it.
This is, by far, the worst outbreak. And highly trained doctors die from it the same way 40yo highly trained operatives can still get shot by 17yo Jihadis in Afghanistan--exposure.
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Can it all be family, mortuary workers, etc. or is sheer ignorance of the facts of the disease contribute to the large numbers?
Ignorance plays some role. One family in Sierra Leon "kidnapped" their daughter from an isolation ward after she tested positive because they were bitter/afraid? about the results. Medical protocols in Liberia and Sierra Leon are not that well advanced. Liberia had one radiologist in the entire country. If not for groups like Samaritan's Purse, shite would be a lot worse.
But it should be emphasized that there hasn't been an "outbreak" in a major city since the disease was identified in DRC and Sudan the late 1970s.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:23 pm to Navytiger74
Thank you, I appreciate the insight! I have to say that the very thought of some tourist coming into the country with Ebola by plane was making me very nervous, given the porous and very poorly monitored borders we have.
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