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Why the U.S. should cut the Pentagon budget in half
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:28 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:28 am
The DOD agreed to pay Bell helicopter $13.4 billion for parts worth $4.4 billion.
Here's the details.
Part
Fair Price
Contract Price
Sleeve spacer
$7.49
$29.95
Shouldered shaft
$1221.15
$5857.26
Wear sleeve
$50.14
$249.52
Fluid filter body
$566.99
$2851.44
Inner Swashplate cap
$412.12
$2355.85
Pylon support
$409.47
$3580,73
Shim
$25.86
$237.51
Sleeve brushing
$25.72
$295.57
Straight headed pin
$36.08
$492.17
Crown coupling
$435.79
$7399.83
Bevel gear
$445.06
$8123.50
Source: Bloomberg News
If the Pentagon was forced to live within a smaller budget, they would be forced to actually pay fair price.
Here's the details.
Part
Fair Price
Contract Price
Sleeve spacer
$7.49
$29.95
Shouldered shaft
$1221.15
$5857.26
Wear sleeve
$50.14
$249.52
Fluid filter body
$566.99
$2851.44
Inner Swashplate cap
$412.12
$2355.85
Pylon support
$409.47
$3580,73
Shim
$25.86
$237.51
Sleeve brushing
$25.72
$295.57
Straight headed pin
$36.08
$492.17
Crown coupling
$435.79
$7399.83
Bevel gear
$445.06
$8123.50
Source: Bloomberg News
If the Pentagon was forced to live within a smaller budget, they would be forced to actually pay fair price.
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:34 am to samson'sseed
Eliminating “Use It or Lose It” Acquisition Budgeting would be a huge step forward. LINK
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:36 am to NC_Tigah
I'd agree to that right now if every other department had an equal cut:
HHS
EPA
DOEnergy
DOEducation
Etc.
HHS
EPA
DOEnergy
DOEducation
Etc.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:02 am to samson'sseed
samson'sseed = Rex lite
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:12 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Eliminating “Use It or Lose It” Acquisition Budgeting would be a huge step forward
This!!!
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:15 am to udtiger
quote:
Eliminating “Use It or Lose It” Acquisition Budgeting would be a huge step forward. LINK
This
and
quote:
I'd agree to that right now if every other department had an equal cut:
HHS
EPA
DOEnergy
DOEducation
This
Needs to be cuts everywhere. Eliminations as well.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:16 am to samson'sseed
Once you did that you would be complaining about all those out of work union semi skilled laborers bell would lay off
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:23 am to samson'sseed
quote:
If the Pentagon was forced to live within a smaller budget, they would be forced to actually pay fair price.
i'd imagine most of this is a Congressman problem and not a Pentagon problem
Army doesn't want tanks; Congress insists
quote:
If there's a home of the Abrams, it's politically important Ohio. The nation's only tank plant is in Lima. So it's no coincidence that the champions for more tanks are Rep. Jim Jordan and Sen. Rob Portman, two of Capitol's Hill most prominent deficit hawks, as well as Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown. They said their support is rooted in protecting national security, not in pork-barrel politics.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:26 am to samson'sseed
Okay. But why not eliminate the post office and cut the IRS jobs by 95% at the same time also?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:27 am to Gray Tiger
quote:
samson'sseed = Rex lite
samson'sseed;dr
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:32 am to samson'sseed
I don't deny that we pay too much for things. But fine "fair price".
It's not like you can run down to Lowe's and grab a pylon support off the shelf.
And even for a "shim", it's not like one off the shelf. It's specially designed to meet military specs.
This is what I deal with on a daily basis. You're in my world now.
It's not like you can run down to Lowe's and grab a pylon support off the shelf.
And even for a "shim", it's not like one off the shelf. It's specially designed to meet military specs.
This is what I deal with on a daily basis. You're in my world now.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:32 am to samson'sseed
quote:
The DOD agreed to pay Bell helicopter $13.4 billion for parts worth $4.4 billion.
quote:
In other news, the Dem-lead USG agreed to pay no-account deadbeats $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ indefinitely via food stamps, SNAP, WIC, etc. for absolutely jack-shite in return ... except votes.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:35 am to udtiger
quote:
I'd agree to that right now if every other department had an equal cut:
HHS
EPA
DOEnergy
DOEducation
Etc.
+1
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:38 am to lsuroadie
quote:
HHS
DOEnergy
DOEducation
These should actually just go away completely.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:39 am to jcole4lsu
quote:
Needs to be cuts everywhere. Eliminations as well.
AND
quote:
Once you did that you would be complaining about all those out of work union semi skilled laborers bell would lay off
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:45 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Eliminating “Use It or Lose It” Acquisition Budgeting would be a huge step forward. LINK
THIS x 100000000
Anyone who has ever owned or run a successful business would agree that "use it or lose it" acquisition budgeting is unbelievably stupid, irresponsible, and destructive.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:50 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
Anyone who has ever owned or run a successful business would agree that "use it or lose it" acquisition budgeting is unbelievably stupid, irresponsible, and destructive.
Agree.
But ... I am not a fan of that policy as it applies to vacation.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:51 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Eliminating “Use It or Lose It” Acquisition Budgeting would be a huge step forward.
Would be great to see at ALL levels of government. A lot of waste happens right before the end of the budget year with requests for needless items just to spend the money.
Hell, just looking at the examples given in the OP, if those numbers are indicative of what the gubmint pays across the board for most things, then it would go a long way toward balancing the budget if the gubmint would simply demand and pay fair market price for its equipment needs.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:58 am to navy
quote:
Agree.
But ... I am not a fan of that policy as it applies to vacation.
Since I own my own business, I'm on the vacation accumulation plan. I'm close to accumulating, forever
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:08 am to navy
quote:
These should go away completely.
I agree. But baby steps.
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