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Help me build my home theater

Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:48 am
Posted by RaginCajunsULL
Da Berry
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:48 am
I have a denon avr-1513

Budget is <500

Would anyone recommend these?

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This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 8:33 am
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16527 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 7:33 am to
Not the exact same set, but this one has really good reviews on amazon.

LINK
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14939 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:02 am to
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Budget is >500



How much >$500?



Check out the Sony SSF-line (7000 would be my recommendation; you don't need a sub with them) of floor standing speakers. They're great for home theatre. You can get a real good low, rumbly bass on your explosions from your movies.

Slightly more expensive, there's a Polk Audio pair of towers that get reviewed slightly better on average. There's a pair of JBLs also in that $2-400 price range that people like, too.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12120 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:33 am to
Personally, I would buy a solid set of towers and just have stereo sound until you put together the cash to finish it up from there. I am not a fan of the small package 5.1 set ups. That said, Definitive Tech has a set that is pretty good.

Definitive Tech Pro Cinema 60

For a little over your budget

Pioneer 5.1 set up with towers

This is actually a pretty well rated system especially for the money.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11532 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Budget is <500



quote:

Help me build my home theater


Does not compute.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27646 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:41 pm to
I'm in the home theater business and $500 just made me laug

Save some more and you can get one for around $1500 for intro level

Onkyo is best bang for buck. I like Polk audio too
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14939 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:46 pm to
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Save some more and you can get one for around $1500 for intro level



$1500 is far from entry level. It may be what you recommend, but entry level starts far, far below that.
Posted by WoWyHi
Member since Jul 2009
23339 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 9:04 pm to
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Definitive Tech Pro Cinema 60


Never heard of this company. Any good?
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 9:05 pm to
For that budget, I recommend the Energy speakers, but not the included sub. Get the 5.0 set and get a better sub.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12120 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 9:23 pm to
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Never heard of this company. Any good?



yeah, Definitive Technology makes some good stuff. In the big world of audio, they fall in the mid-price range. They fall just above something like Klipsch and on par with Polk for their full product range. They top out about 2500 per tower speaker or so with some lower offerings in the 400 range.

That set is pretty well rated but any budget small speaker set will sound like a budget small speaker set.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14939 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 1:33 am to
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any budget small speaker set will sound like a budget small speaker set.


I do think it's worth noting that this is a tremendous improvement over all but the most high-end on-TV speakers (and really I'm probably overplaying how nice the super high end TVs with what look like decent speakers sound. I've never owned one or heard them, but I can all but guarantee a $2-300 investment in a pair of stereo towers with deep bass will dramatically improve the home theatre experience of either all tvs or all except these tvs).
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 1:35 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:45 am to
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$1500 is far from entry level. It may be what you recommend, but entry level starts far, far below that.


Not for anything decent. You know, a semi accurate sound field.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:46 am to
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the most high-end on-TV speakers


Does not exist. I'll put it bluntly. The speakers on ALL TVs suck.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22156 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 7:51 am to
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Pioneer 5.1 set up with towers


Go with these. They are the best at that budget and under 1000. Also get a BIC F12 sub.

Newegg was having a sale on the Pioneers a week ago.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 7:54 am
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14939 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 7:59 am to
I get what you're saying, but i would imagine the ones on the Sony XBR 84" are at least better than most, maybe up to the level of very cheap extra-tv speakers. Like I said, I've never actually put ear to them to say so or not.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14939 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:01 am to
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Not for anything decent. You know, a semi accurate sound field.


I'm not saying that $1500 doesn't get you better stuff or better soundstaging. I'm just saying it's not "entry level." You can get OK soundstage in the $200-400 range with a set of stereo towers. I can't comment on HTIB or 5.1/7.1/2 systems.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35472 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:10 am to
Sony makes shitty consumer speakers so I expect the add on ones on their TVs to be the same. I probably have a different criteria than most for judging sound quality as I've been in/associated with this business for 20+ years.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14939 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:30 am to
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Sony makes shitty consumer speakers


On the low end, they tend to have that "boomier" bass that audiophiles don't care for. They're SSF line is a decent enough sub-$300 home theatre speaker. Polk Audio probably makes a better one, but it's a matter of preference over quality. check out the SSF-5000 and 7000 consumer reviews. They're frequently reviewed and frequently reviewed highly. I happen to own the SSF-7000. They're definitely an entry-level buy, and if I were doing it again, i would head to a Magnolia Center Best Buy and give listen to some competitively priced Polk Audio and JBL towers, but I was very much impressed with the amount of decent enough sound you can get out of the cheap stuff. I think it's more about what color sound you like best than the quality of the product.


On the high-end, I'll either assume you're not speaking of their AR line with regards to being "consumer" speakers or suggest that you've not read reviews on them or put ear to them. It's distinct sound, and at the price range, they make competitive products. They lack anything in the $500-20,000 range until recently, and there offerings there are limited. Like any company, they offer color to the sound that you either like or don't like. In either case, it beats the hell out of TV speakers or the majority of small HTIB setups.



Again, the guy said $500, so I'm limiting my input to what can be found there. When you get up in that $1500 range, used audiophile-grade stuff is abundantly available and probably a better way to go, in my humble opinion. Soundstage on good stereo sound is more impressive than any 5.1 or 7.1 stuff that I've heard.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11532 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:37 am to
I agree that getting two tower speakers would be better than a cheap 5.1 system. Over budget by $60 but this is a great deal. LINK

These would sound way better than some small box 5.1 system. As your budget grows, you can add more pieces to it.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14939 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:40 am to
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Over budget by $60 but this is a great deal. LINK


I would hop on it in a heartbeat. Those are a pair of speakers you're more likely to add to than replace in a HT setup.
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