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How can people with morals survive in an immoral world?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:23 pm
How can there be any real dialogue or progress in this country when there is a group that believes in some moral standards( Ten Commandments), believes in an after life and a final judgment, where one has to give an account for his actions, and this group must deal with another group that not only doesn't mind lying to achieve its goals, but prides itself in it and believes they will never have to give any kind of account for the things they do here on earth? How can there ever be any real compromise or deal making when these two groups are so diametrically opposed?
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:25 pm to Revelator
Who exactly are you referring to? Why are you being so vague?
Call someone out if that's what you are attempting and don't be a pussy about it Rev
Call someone out if that's what you are attempting and don't be a pussy about it Rev
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:26 pm to Revelator
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How can there ever be any real compromise or deal making when these two groups are so diametrically opposed?
you can look towards what i postulate led to the creation of religions: social mores developing to minimize societal disruption so that we can devote those saved resources to advancing our species
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:43 pm to Revelator
You have to be strong so that you can look out for those that the immoral would take advantage of. If everyone were moral then you could relax and not worry about competing and one upping.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:46 pm to Revelator
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How can there be any real dialogue or progress in this country when there is a group that believes in some moral standards( Ten Commandments), believes in an after life and a final judgment, where one has to give an account for his actions, and this group must deal with another group that not only doesn't mind lying to achieve its goals, but prides itself in it and believes they will never have to give any kind of account for the things they do here on earth? How can there ever be any real compromise or deal making when these two groups are so diametrically opposed?
The vast majority of incarcerated Americans claim Christianity.
So there's that.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Hijack
worth listening to that D'souza speech tonight instead of my normal podcast lineups?
End hjjack
worth listening to that D'souza speech tonight instead of my normal podcast lineups?
End hjjack
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:49 pm to Revelator
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How can there be any real dialogue or progress in this country when there is a group that believes in some moral standards( Ten Commandments), believes in an after life and a final judgment, where one has to give an account for his actions, and this group must deal with another group that not only doesn't mind lying to achieve its goals, but prides itself in it and believes they will never have to give any kind of account for the things they do here on earth? How can there ever be any real compromise or deal making when these two groups are so diametrically opposed?
Who are you talking about? Seriously, this sounds like a sermon straight from a preacher.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:50 pm to Revelator
And before you start in with the "But they aren't REAL Christians" spiel, please remember that that is irrelevant in the context of this thread. You stated there is a dichotomy between those who actively reject a higher power and those who do not, implying that those who do are the problem. The majority of the people committing grossly immoral acts against their fellow man in this country, both as a percentage and total numbers, do not reject a higher moral system.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:53 pm to Revelator
The vast majority of 'Christians' are immoral. They either are willfully ignorant about what the bible says, such as NOT TAKING PART IN THIS WORLD'S POLITICAL AFFAIRS (John 17:16), ...or they just have not been taught to read the bible for themselves
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:59 pm to SuperSaint
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Who exactly are you referring to? Why are you being so vague? Call someone out if that's what you are attempting and don't be a pussy about it Rev
How is this vague? One group is willing to lie, cheat and steal as long as their goals are achieved, and the other group won't because of consequences here and in the after life.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:00 pm to Socratics
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Who are you talking about? Seriously, this sounds like a sermon straight from a preacher.
Sounds like most Southern Baptist sermons I had to endure growing up. The sanctimony has always amazed me. If you're not a "good" church going Christian then you must be an immoral dirtbag.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:02 pm to Roger Klarvin
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nd before you start in with the "But they aren't REAL Christians" spiel, please remember that that is irrelevant in the context of this thread
For the sake of this discussion, it doesn't matter what label is affixed to those who don't believe in selling out their morals to achieve a goal with those who would.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:03 pm to Revelator
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How is this vague? One group is willing to lie, cheat and steal as long as their goals are achieved, and the other group want because of consequences here and in the after life.
Are you categorizing everyone as fitting into one or the other group?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:04 pm to Revelator
Yeah, let's put a label on them since you are referring to certain groups in the OP. Why be vague, call out the parties you want to call out Rev.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:05 pm to Big12fan
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Are you categorizing everyone as fitting into one or the other group?
Of course. Black and white thinking colors their very world.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:06 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Sounds like most Southern Baptist sermons I had to endure growing up. The sanctimony has always amazed me. If you're not a "good" church going Christian then you must be an immoral dirtbag.
It ls true that a non believer can be moral in business and life, but it is also true that a person who doesn't believe in a moral standard or an afterlife to answer for those things done in this life would have less restraints to use immoral or amoral tactics to achieve his goals.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:06 pm to Revelator
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One group is willing to lie, cheat and steal as long as their goals are achieved, and the other group won't because of consequences here and in the after life.
Bull. shite.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:07 pm to Roger Klarvin
Being incarcerated means society imposed itself upon you not necessarily is it a badge of immorality, especially if that society itself is immoral. On the other hand there are plenty of free wealthy and/or powerful immoral golfers and of couse plenty of little perverts who jerk to perverse porn by night and then disguise themselves as normal by day. It's all a matter of perspective.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Bull. shite.
So two individuals are questioned about their involvement in a crime and both are guilty. The first is shown a video of himself committing the act, the second is not. Which is more likely to come clean?
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:09 pm to Revelator
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How is this vague? One group is willing to lie, cheat and steal as long as their goals are achieved, and the other group want because of consequences here and in the after life.
bullshite. I don't lie, cheat, and steal because I respect my fellow man. Not because I'm afraid of some space genie might shoot fireballs at me or lock me in his old college roommates s&m dungeon.
This notion that morality doesn't exist outside Judeo-Christian teachings is full blown retarded and more than a little insulting.
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