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Why run Cat5/6 if you already have cable TV? Use MoCA
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:11 pm
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Thanks to the Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA), a standard is emerging to enable devices such as set-top boxes, computers, and smart TV’s to communicate with each other and network over the existing Coaxial cable (Cable TV Wire) already in the walls of most homes and offices. It does not matter if the Coax wire is in use to distribute TV service from a cable company, Verizon FiOS, or Over-the-Are Free Broadcast DTV or not in use at all and just sitting there.
I did this in my home. It is a 2 story, 4000 square foot home. Five bedroom, two liiving areas. No Ethernet, but... Coax cable in every room. I installed seven of these devices I picked up for $65 each on my Verizon Fios cable tv.
Each connects to a small five or eight port switch, and from there I connect TV's, Blu-ray players, computers and sound equipment. These all get around 55 Mbps of Internet service.
I also installed four additional wireless routers, two 802.11ac and two more 802.11n routers. This covers all my dead spots, provides a guest network and one forthe backyard and pool area. Everything sets up really simple and never touches the Verizon router that comes with the Internet service.
Actiontec MoCA Network Adapters
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:28 pm to HubbaBubba
Did you really setup 6 routers? You have done Ubiquiti Wifi APs for probably the same money and only had one router to deal with.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:34 am to HubbaBubba
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Everything sets up really simple and never touches the Verizon router that comes with the Internet service.
I thought MoCA had to be blocked from broadcasting network traffic to your neighborhood?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:21 am to Spock's Eyebrow
quote:there is a filter, but on the Verizon Fios it's already installed.
I thought MoCA had to be blocked from broadcasting network traffic to your neighborhood?
My wife and I both use 802.11ac devices, but the signal doesn't travel as far or through walls, as well as 802.11n, at least in my house. With our jobs, at times, my wife is working on three computers plus several wireless devices. I'm running two computers minimum, and also run real-time control of various command and control operations centers from my office all across the country and I'll set up and test system configurations, including mirroring and casting to video walls and IP switching systems.
We can't have the kids, guests or other systems interfere with the work we do, so the separate wireless networks help accomodate everyone's needs and we have no dead spots anywhere.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:32 am to SG_Geaux
quote:No, I set up four more than the one installed by Verizon in my garage that has serious problems because of the metal garage doors. One for guests, one for my wife's work, one for my work, one for the kids. We really don't even use the Verizon router except for the connection to a Vonage router. The seven MoCA devices are for three bedrooms, two offices, one media room and one family room.
Did you really setup 6 routers? You have done Ubiquiti Wifi APs for probably the same money and only had one router to deal with.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 7:56 am to SG_Geaux
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Did you really setup 6 routers? You have done Ubiquiti Wifi APs for probably the same money and only had one router to deal with.
Are these fairly easy to set up? Can I stick it on the wall/ceiling inside a closet and expect good results in that room?
I have a Zyxel that is supposed to be able to be used as a range extender, but I could never get the handoff between the two routers to work. It would swap to the Zyxel fine, but I couldn't get it to swap back.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:19 am to STBTigerr
Extremely easy. 5 minutes or less. The MoCA boxes don't require programming. Follow the Actiontec link in the OP.
Edit: The MoCA device gives you a hard-wired ethernet LAN connection. One only. If you need more, add a 4, 5 or 8 port switch. I did that and also added wireless routers.
Edit: The MoCA device gives you a hard-wired ethernet LAN connection. One only. If you need more, add a 4, 5 or 8 port switch. I did that and also added wireless routers.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 8:23 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:10 am to HubbaBubba
This seems like a useful technology especially if your house is already built and you don't want the hassle of running cables through already placed drywall.
If I am building I think I still run Cat 6 but that's mainly so i can have a central entertainment Hub/Room/Closet where all cable boxes/BluRay/Roku devices are located in order to have the clean look. Which means I might as well run an extra Cat6 to each room for internet
If I am building I think I still run Cat 6 but that's mainly so i can have a central entertainment Hub/Room/Closet where all cable boxes/BluRay/Roku devices are located in order to have the clean look. Which means I might as well run an extra Cat6 to each room for internet
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:17 am to The Eric
this is really awesome and I am going to seriously consider putting it into my office.
although I have had no issues with wifi.
although I have had no issues with wifi.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:33 am to The Eric
quote:Of course. My solution is simply for homes with existing coax runs and no Cat6 runs, like my house.
If I am building I think I still run Cat 6 but that's mainly so i can have a central entertainment Hub/Room/Closet where all cable boxes/BluRay/Roku devices are located in order to have the clean look. Which means I might as well run an extra Cat6 to each room for internet
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:57 am to HubbaBubba
Does it interface with DirecTV?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:00 pm to HubbaBubba
i looked into it a bit more.
I only wish the price point was a little lower. If they could get you 2 units for 50-60 bucks it would be great.
I only wish the price point was a little lower. If they could get you 2 units for 50-60 bucks it would be great.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:16 pm to STBTigerr
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Are these fairly easy to set up? Can I stick it on the wall/ceiling inside a closet and expect good results in that room?
One Ubiquiti AP would probably cover the average house. You can always add a 2nd, 3rd, 100th... They are about $70 each.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:18 pm to HubbaBubba
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We can't have the kids, guests or other systems interfere with the work we do, so the separate wireless networks help accomodate everyone's needs and we have no dead spots anywhere.
Could have done that with a couple of APs with multiple SSIDs.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:53 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:What do you have against excess? It is doing exactly what I want it to do.
Could have done that with a couple of APs with multiple SSIDs.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:29 pm to HubbaBubba
I am a fan of simplicity.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:02 pm to HubbaBubba
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Why run Cat5/6 if you already have cable TV? Use MoCA
quote:
Thanks to the Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA), a standard is emerging to enable devices such as set-top boxes, computers, and smart TV’s to communicate with each other and network over the existing Coaxial cable (Cable TV Wire) already in the walls of most homes and offices. It does not matter if the Coax wire is in use to distribute TV service from a cable company, Verizon FiOS, or Over-the-Are Free Broadcast DTV or not in use at all and just sitting there.
LINK
I did this in my home. It is a 2 story, 4000 square foot home. Five bedroom, two liiving areas. No Ethernet, but... Coax cable in every room. I installed seven of these devices I picked up for $65 each on my Verizon Fios cable tv.
Each connects to a small five or eight port switch, and from there I connect TV's, Blu-ray players, computers and sound equipment. These all get around 55 Mbps of Internet service.
I also installed four additional wireless routers, two 802.11ac and two more 802.11n routers. This covers all my dead spots, provides a guest network and one forthe backyard and pool area. Everything sets up really simple and never touches the Verizon router that comes with the Internet service.
Actiontec MoCA Network Adapters
What kind of transfer rate can you get between devices on the local network?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:09 pm to Casty McBoozer
It seems like it would all be one collision domain since coax is just split and never enters a device like a switch, causing all kinds of problems if you tried to put serious traffic through it. Full duplex isn't possible on coax. That's why you would run CAT5/6...if you actually need a LAN.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:02 am to Casty McBoozer
LINKthis is a good blog on the subject.
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