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This is why I'm against Common Core.

Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:08 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:08 am
Besides the numerous stories I've read about inappropriate reading assignments and the ridiculous math curriculum. I wouldn't want this guy teaching my kids much less writing the curriculum. LINK
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Posted by RollTheRock
Member since Feb 2014
478 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:11 am to
You understand that common core is not a curriculum and does not mandate any certain curriculum
Posted by Truckasaurus
Alabama
Member since May 2014
336 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:15 am to
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You understand that common core is not a curriculum and does not mandate any certain curriculum


I've always figured common core opposition has been secretly funded by the teacher unions because they don't actually want to have to teach anything as involved as common core.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:17 am to
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I've always figured common core opposition has been secretly funded by the teacher unions because they don't actually want to have to teach anything as involved as common core.


Agreed. It's easy to see why teacher's unions are against it. It will be pretty plain exactly how horrible a job they're doing.
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5182 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:19 am to
The "inappropriate reading assignments" are only an issue if the teacher is too lazy to design their own lessons and choose their own readings. It is when the teacher just buys a bunch of Common Core workbooks with ready made lessons that you might run into a problem.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:19 am to
lets just go ahead and let the fedgov bribe states into giving them more control
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:20 am to
LINK

You can find the actual standards at this link. Let me know which standards with which you disagree.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:20 am to
Ok, I'm not in the loop, but I keep seeing Common Core thrown around....


Can someone, in a few hundred words or less, explain to me what Common Core is?


TIA
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:22 am to
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lets just go ahead and let the fedgov bribe states into giving them more control


Sad isn't it. I finally had my ah ha moment the other day when I realized how much of the expansion of the federal level was through this method
Posted by Semaphore
a former French colony
Member since Jan 2013
275 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:24 am to
I'm not sure if I'm against it. I'm not well versed on its details, but I'm generally against one size fits all thinking that tends to kill off grass roots innovation. Common core sounds like it comes from that mold.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7929 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:26 am to
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Can someone, in a few hundred words or less, explain to me what Common Core is?

Common Core is more of a vehicle for feds and bureaucrats to control more of our education...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:26 am to
It's a set of educational standards, set up by a coalition of states, that will make some educational objectives standardized across the country. It does not mandate a curriculum to achieve those standards. That is up to the local district.

No one has ever read the standards. Everyone is also really sure that the standards are the way that the Antichrist will take control of America.

A math curriculum, called Everyday Math (which may be the worst curriculum ever written) has been sold to schools as meeting Common Core objectives. This math curriculum makes up almost all (if not all) of the examples of ridiculous math problems you may or may not have seen floating on the interwebs. The Everyday Math curriculum is no more mandated by Common Core than driving a Yugo is mandated by your state transportation department.

But it's national education standards, so the Muslims are winning.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:29 am to
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It's a set of educational standards, set up by a coalition of states, that will make some educational objectives standardized across the country. It does not mandate a curriculum to achieve those standards. That is up to the local district.



So its basically a set of goals with a recommended path (common core curriculum) to get there, however, you don't have to use that curriculum to achieve the goals?


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:30 am to
There is no "Common Core curriculum." There will be companies who write curriculum and label it as "Common Core," but that will be them marketing their product.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:33 am to
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There is no "Common Core curriculum." There will be companies who write curriculum and label it as "Common Core," but that will be them marketing their product.


Thats what I mean... There will be curriculum out there that is supposed to get these schools to the objective, but it doesn't have to be used or followed.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63410 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:35 am to
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There will be companies who write curriculum and label it as "Common Core," but that will be them marketing their product.


And that's where, I suspect, the opponents will find the most ridiculous examples to oppose.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21143 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:36 am to
You really need to stop with these reasoned contributions to the Common Core debate.

It's so much more fun just to say that Barack Obama fooled Bobby Jindal (who is supposed to be, and probably is, an extremely bright guy). Jindal then, after being duped by Obama, "mistakenly" pushed Common Core through BESE and soon went on national television to brag about how he was reforming and improving standards and accountability in Louisiana's education system.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:36 am to
Correct.

When you actually read the standards (I linked them above), they are just nuts and bolts education stuff.

By grade X, child will be able to count by 10s. Identify shapes. Etc. I fail to see why conservatives have picked this as a rallying point and I am usually somewhere to the right of Atilla the Hun.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:37 am to
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And that's where, I suspect, the opponents will find the most ridiculous examples to oppose.



So what are the pros and cons of common core?

What is each side arguing?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111494 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:37 am to
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And that's where, I suspect, the opponents will find the most ridiculous examples to oppose.

Correct. The standards themselves are very vanilla. And I mean that in a non-racial way.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 8:38 am
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