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ETFs in Roth

Posted on 7/20/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 2:45 pm
Is there a general rule to adhere to with investing in etfs in a Roth. Should i just stick to mutual funds??
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 4:24 pm to
ETFs are better.


The fees are so low you can almost ignore them.

And the average fund manager doesn't do any better than ETF's. They may appear to if you look around - but the information you can find is heavily weighted by selection bias and randomness. Most of the "good" fund managers just lucked up, they continue to have a job - and most of the "bad" ones had bad luck and have been fired and are no longer part of the sample - thus you mostly see the winners. Until they all lose - of course - when the market crashes. This is how we know which of the "good" managers were lucky and which ones actually have the ability to out-perform the market, as the latter will lose much less in a crash and may even gain, while those dependent on luck get slaughtered along with everyone else - but by then its too late to invest!
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 4:58 pm to
Thanks


I know fidelity doesnt offer many etfs. Only sector etfs, but they are com free. Can anyone tell me if these etfs are good choices sinces I wont have to pay commission on them. Edit: the first two are labeled wrong

Consumer Staples ETF

Consumer Disc ETF

Energy ETF

Healthcare ETF

Telcom ETF


There are 6 more but Ill get the idea if these look ok.
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26980 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:01 pm to
This is why I told you to invest in a Vanguard index fund
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 6:53 pm to
I have a fidelity Roth. I dont want yo wait until i have 2500 to start investing. I started a fidelity mutual fund already. Im looking at etfs now to purchase monthly
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Is there a general rule to adhere to with investing in etfs in a Roth. Should i just stick to mutual funds??


Not really. EFT's do incur a commission charge but most often it isn't worth worrying about unless you're daytrading them.

Normally the real figure is the expense ratio.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26980 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:55 pm to
I know you do, and I told you that you could open a Vanguard account with $1,000

I set automatic buys every week, which more evenly follows the market (it can move quite a bit in one month). Fees on ETFs would eat me alive. Even monthly, I wouldn't be a big fan of giving away the commission every month.
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

I know you do, and I told you that you c
could open a Vanguard account with $1,000


I opened one up for 0
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:06 pm to
quote:


Not really. EFT's do incur a commission charge but most often it isn't worth worrying about unless you're daytrading them


As long as i buy fidelity or one of 62 selected ishares etfs, i dont have to pay commission
Posted by Anfield Road
Liverpool Fan
Member since May 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:15 pm to
Fidelity also has a commission fee S&P 500 ETF

LINK
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26980 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Free commission offer applies to online purchases of 65 iShares® ETFs and Fidelity ETFs in a Fidelity brokerage account with a minimum opening balance of $2,500. The sale of ETFs are subject to an activity assessment fee (of between $0.01 to $0.03 per $1000 of principal) by Fidelity. After September 30, 2013, 65 iShares ETFs are subject to a short-term trading fee by Fidelity, if held less than 30 days. After January 31, 2014, Fidelity ETFs are subject to a short-term trading fee by Fidelity, if held less than 30 days. See the brokerage commission and fee schedule (PDF) for details.


That's your fine print.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72484 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:31 pm to
You can do either or both. I do both.
Posted by ragacamps
Member since Jan 2011
2997 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:03 pm to
I think im going with the ishares s&p growth etf in addition to the fidelity energy sector etf. Those two with my large cap growth mutual fund should be a good start to the roth
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