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Obama and Crisis pressers
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:06 am
Maybe it's just me but it seems like Obama sucks at pressers during times of crisis. Last night he mentioned the crisis in passing, this morning he mixes politics into it and doesn't really sound conceded about the 294 people who were murdered by Pro-Russian Militants aided by Russia and Putin.
Why can't he speak like this
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Has Obama ever spoke behind his office in the oval office, calming americans after crisis struck? Has he ever canceled fundraisers and events he planned because hundreds of people were murdered or, a school massacre occurred.
I've just never really gotten how Obama can treat crisis like he does. If there are americans on that Plane that was shot down, do you really think they give a crap about the war in Ukraine and such and cease fires and such? No they care about bringing the people who did this horrid act to Justice, but I have yet to hear the president say those words.
Why can't he speak like this
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Has Obama ever spoke behind his office in the oval office, calming americans after crisis struck? Has he ever canceled fundraisers and events he planned because hundreds of people were murdered or, a school massacre occurred.
I've just never really gotten how Obama can treat crisis like he does. If there are americans on that Plane that was shot down, do you really think they give a crap about the war in Ukraine and such and cease fires and such? No they care about bringing the people who did this horrid act to Justice, but I have yet to hear the president say those words.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 11:07 am
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:09 am to catholictigerfan
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Has Obama ever spoke behind his office in the oval office, calming americans after crisis struck? Has he ever canceled fundraisers and events he planned because hundreds of people were murdered or, a school massacre occurred.
No, he hasn't, and no, he won't.
I think the gold standard of him fricking up would be when he addressed the Fort Hood attack, where he made sure to give a shout-out, his words, for a former Medal Of Honor winner before addressing a terrorist attack at a military installation on US soil.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:10 am to catholictigerfan
He needs to up his dose of Adderall to stay focused.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:13 am to catholictigerfan
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No they care about bringing the people who did this horrid act to Justice, but I have yet to hear the president say those words.
he has gotten in trouble for promising justice when it would be very difficult to deliver. i bet he learned from his lesson, and specifically didn't promise justice for this reason. how could he possibly go after those who did this without gross violation of international law, and potentially starting WW3?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:18 am to Hawkeye95
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he has gotten in trouble for promising justice when it would be very difficult to deliver. i bet he learned from his lesson, and specifically didn't promise justice for this reason. how could he possibly go after those who did this without gross violation of international law, and potentially starting WW3?
ok I get what you are saying but the way he approaches even more situations than this he has joked than mentioned a crisis in passing. Why can't Obama take these things more seriously? Why can't Obama promise that we will not let this go, I'm fine with him working for peace in the region and not seeking justice because it could lead to WWIII, but I find it hard to believe that this is best he could have handled this situation.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:20 am to teke184
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I think the gold standard of him fricking up would be when he addressed the Fort Hood attack, where he made sure to give a shout-out, his words, for a former Medal Of Honor winner before addressing a terrorist attack at a military installation on US soil.
I've never agreed with policies, but it has been instance like this that have made me lose any respect I had for him. It would be difficult to appear less presidential than he has in times of crisis.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:21 am to catholictigerfan
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Why can't Obama take these things more seriously?
i think this is just his demeanor. I do agree he is "too cool" sometimes but I don't really look to the president for leadership in times like this. I know the president, regardless of party, is not going to solve the problem. They are going to make platitudes or use it as an excuse to do shitty things.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:22 am to Hawkeye95
Watch the Regan Video I posted the situation is very similar, but still many things different. A Russian Jet shot down a 747 over USSR air space, he responded with this 16 min address keeping in mind that this crisis could lead to WWIII in that time. He handled it well and Obama completely failed in that effort to a similar situation just many years later.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:23 am to catholictigerfan
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Maybe it's just me but it seems like Obama sucks
Quit reading......it's not just you, a lot of people thinks he sucks
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:24 am to catholictigerfan
It's been obvious for years that Obama wants to lower the US profile. This is his way of conveying that.
Only problem is, the world doesn't always cooperate.
Only problem is, the world doesn't always cooperate.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:26 am to redandright
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It's been obvious for years that Obama wants to lower the US profile. This is his way of conveying that.
Only problem is, the world doesn't always cooperate.
there are other ways to reduce our profile without making jokes on National TV when millions of people are watching the same day a crisis happens.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:27 am to catholictigerfan
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Watch the Regan Video I posted the situation is very similar, but still many things different. A Russian Jet shot down a 747 over USSR air space, he responded with this 16 min address keeping in mind that this crisis could lead to WWIII in that time. He handled it well and Obama completely failed in that effort to a similar situation just many years later.
Right but reagan really didn't do shite about the incident. it was just platitudes.
But definitely a better speech. reagan was masterful at giving speeches, obama not so much.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:28 am to catholictigerfan
Better watch out yesterday the moderates here said they don't like it when people start threads about Obama's crisis management abilities.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:43 am to constant cough
Foreign policy is a nuisance part of his job description. He cares about furthering two things: securing the future power of his party and moving social law/policy to the left.
He is actually quite good at accomplishing his stated and desired objectives.
He is actually quite good at accomplishing his stated and desired objectives.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:45 am to catholictigerfan
He can damn sure jump into things he has no business jumping into, like running his big, stupid mouth when Trayvon got shot.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:51 am to DeltaDoc
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He cares about furthering two things: securing the future power of his party and moving social law/policy to the left.
He is actually quite good at accomplishing his stated and desired objectives.
he hasn't really done much to move the country to the left. outside the stimulus, he hasn't done much.
And as for securing future power of his party, he is doing a real shitty job of that. he is going to leave the dems in a worse spot than bush left the republicans.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:52 am to catholictigerfan
There is no need to point out every time he screws up or acts like a jackass. I will be very happy when he is out of the office. I think from this point on I am just going to have to ignore all the ignorant crap he does. No need in constantly being perturbed about it.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:56 am to Hawkeye95
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he hasn't really done much to move the country to the left. outside the stimulus, he hasn't done much.
The ACA and placing soon to be democrat voters of Hispanic descent in states across the nation is not moving the country left in your world. Interesting.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:58 am to DeltaDoc
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The ACA
proposed by the right in the 90s. implemented in a state by the republican candidate for president. that just isn't left.
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placing soon to be democrat voters of Hispanic descent in states across the nation is not moving the country left in your world.
Proposed by the last republican president, and supported by the republican candidate for president in 2008.
These just don't pass the muster for going left unless you consider mainstream republicans as moving things to the left.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 12:07 pm to Hawkeye95
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quote:The ACA proposed by the right in the 90s.
Proposed by a think tank in the 90s is not the same as proposing in Congress, passing, and having a Republican President sign it.
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and supported by the republican candidate for president in 2008.
Romney called for each state to decide. That's Federalism.
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