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Time to revisit an old conundrum
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:23 pm
I offered this question in 1997 on a Poli board 8 years before I came here. Not sure if/and/or what year I posted it here.
But, it's been 17 years since I got into an animal rights argument that generated this question that has recurred to me due to the invasion of 'poor children' at what used to be the US border.
Here it is...
You are at the top of a cliff. You have two ropes. One in each hand. On your right hand you hold a rope tied to your dog's collar. On your left hand you hold a rope tied to a random Latin American immigrant trying to get into the US.
You cannot save either from certain death unless you let go of one rope and use both hands to pull the other to safety.
My answer 17 years ago was 'my dog is coming home with me.' The majority of posters on that board agreed.
I'm wondering if things have changed since then. Thoughts on your choice today?
But, it's been 17 years since I got into an animal rights argument that generated this question that has recurred to me due to the invasion of 'poor children' at what used to be the US border.
Here it is...
You are at the top of a cliff. You have two ropes. One in each hand. On your right hand you hold a rope tied to your dog's collar. On your left hand you hold a rope tied to a random Latin American immigrant trying to get into the US.
You cannot save either from certain death unless you let go of one rope and use both hands to pull the other to safety.
My answer 17 years ago was 'my dog is coming home with me.' The majority of posters on that board agreed.
I'm wondering if things have changed since then. Thoughts on your choice today?
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:26 pm to Zach
Dogs are better than people.
Therefor, Rex is the best poster on this site.
Therefor, Rex is the best poster on this site.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:26 pm to Zach
Tough Juan.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:28 pm to Zach
I wouldnt have held the messican's rope to begin with and my dog and i would have already started the walk home.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:28 pm to Zach
I once had a woman I was dating tell me that she thought I loved my dog more than I loved her. Need I tell you how that worked out ?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:28 pm to Zach
How old is each animal?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:29 pm to Zach
Tbone of Pine Estates would be coming home in my gas guzzling Silverado.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:30 pm to Rex
Middle aged
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:32 pm to kingbob
I love my dog....
but i would hope a random person would do the same for my kid.
I dont think I could let go of the random kid.
but i would hope a random person would do the same for my kid.
I dont think I could let go of the random kid.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:33 pm to Zach
quote:I would say you are a borderline sociopath. Save a dog & let a stranger die?
My answer 17 years ago was 'my dog is coming home with me.' The majority of posters on that board agreed.
I'm not sure what the number of dogs that would equal a human life to me, but it would have a lot of zeros.
ETA: While we're at it, looking at other responses, does where someone is born somehow contribute to how much their life is worth saving? Because that is really messed up.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:34 pm to Zach
This is great for mental stroking, but in reality what does it prove? We'll never actually be in this situation so it's somewhat nonsensical. A better question is there are dying children across the border who need medical attention. To give them medical attention, they will need to receive it for free while your medical premiums and taxes go up in order to pay for it. Do you let the kids die, or pay the extra money?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:34 pm to Zach
I love dogs and can't stand people, but a human life has more intrinsic value than a dog's--and it isn't close.
This shouldn't be a difficult question for a reasonable person.
This shouldn't be a difficult question for a reasonable person.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:35 pm to Zach
Letting the dog go.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:35 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
This shouldn't be a difficult question for a reasonable person.
quote:
Political Talk
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:36 pm to The Spleen
I'm not killing my dogs for anybody.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:36 pm to GhostofJackson
quote:
This is great for mental stroking, but in reality what does it prove?
that the OP is a horrible person?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:37 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:No not even close.
that the OP is a horrible person?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:37 pm to Zach
not much of a conundrum. dog lives.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:37 pm to Zach
Goodbye Rex.
The Mexican might be a God loving Conservative. We know about Rex.
The Mexican might be a God loving Conservative. We know about Rex.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:37 pm to Zach
Love my dog.
Save the person. They are of (in my worldview) eternal value.
Save the person. They are of (in my worldview) eternal value.
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