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Outlook for lawyers growing more grim

Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:48 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:48 am
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Lawyers have been struggling for a while now, but it's gotten even worse: Half of lawyers are now making less than $62,000 a year, according to the National Association for Law Placement.


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Back in 2008, associates at big firms made $125,000 straight out of school. But by last year, that had dropped to $95,000. And the vast majority of lawyers actually work at small firms for much less money. Local prosecutors, for instance, make about $50,000 in their first year, while those with 15 years of experience only earn $80,000.


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Posted by tween the hedges
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Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Study Math and Science..........
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22150 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:49 am to
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Back in 2008, associates at big firms made $125,000 straight out of school. But by last year, that had dropped to $95,000.


This is terribly inaccurate.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71948 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:50 am to
There is no other career out there that has such a saturated job market than lawyers.

It's amazing people still see it as a potential job.

Scruffy's dad is a lawyer and he told him to never go to law school for this specific reason.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97589 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:51 am to
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Local prosecutors, for instance, make about $50,000 in their first year, while those with 15 years of experience only earn $80,000.


Should have went to trade school to be a welder
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126824 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:52 am to
This is why we're seeing so many frivolous lawsuits taken on a contingency basis. They've got nothing to lose.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31655 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:54 am to
i think this has more to do with the over saturation of law students more so than less jobs. the law field is still huge, there are just too many kids in it now.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:54 am to
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This is why we're seeing so many frivolous lawsuits taken on a contingency basis. They've got nothing to lose.


Yep

And I can only hope for the day that they file suits against each other
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15800 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:57 am to
Should of been an operator, fricked off 6 years of his/her life.
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:57 am to
Abolishing all lawyers must be done by 2015.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:57 am to
Law schools were playing the same free money, get a load and learn game that all American colleges were/are playing

I know NUMEROUS jobs that require no legal background that 50% of the applicants are law school graduates. And not just from Southern.

There are a lot of poor attorneys out there

Louisiana # 10 in lawyers per capita

so I think the math on that is
LA population = 4,600,000
/ 10,000 = 460
460 * 40.06 = 18,248 attorneys in the state
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22150 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:58 am to
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i think this has more to do with the over saturation of law students more so than less jobs. the law field is still huge, there are just too many kids in it now.


There are still jobs for those at the top of their class, there was just an influx in law school students for a few years meaning more and more students at the bottom without jobs. The law school applications are starting to drop pretty significantly.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15573 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:59 am to
So many people piling into law school because they can't figure out what do in their field and they want to make more money

It's a shite job. I'm surprised more people don't realize it.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98048 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:59 am to
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Scruffy's dad is a lawyer and he told him to never go to law school for this specific reason.


My dad wasn't that adamant, but he certainly didn't encourage us to go into it.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
78997 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Back in 2008, associates at big firms made $125,000 straight out of school. But by last year, that had dropped to $95,000. And the vast majority of lawyers actually work at small firms for much less money. Local prosecutors, for instance, make about $50,000 in their first year, while those with 15 years of experience only earn $80,000.


This doesn't make any sense. First year associates at big firms in major cities make between 115k and 160k, in large part.

But yeah, it's not like it used to be.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89445 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:00 am to
Tell me about it...
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20839 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:06 am to
Well, yeah. It doesn't work if you're not any good.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12334 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:06 am to
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i think this has more to do with the over saturation of law students more so than less jobs. the law field is still huge, there are just too many kids in it now.


This.

Corporations, banks and businesses need in-house counsel and legal personnel now more than ever. There is plenty of opportunity as far as the general field is concerned, it's just that a whole generation of people have gone or are going to law school simply because they think it's a lucrative field to enter, and law school enrollment numbers are inflated thusly. Same thing applies to the medical field, it's just that med school is harder to get into and does a better job of weeding out people in the application process.

I have about 10 fraternity brothers who went to law school and graduated, and I wouldn't trust about 8 of them to watch my dog for a day.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8431 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:07 am to
Good. Good. Long fricking overdue.
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