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Why are outboard motors so &%$*^$ expensive!

Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Tbooux
Member since Oct 2011
1680 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:15 pm
Seriously for the life of me I cant figure out why a new outboard is so freaking expensive! Talking to a co worker that just repowered with a 200 yamahammer last month and spent $17k by the time he bought controls, installation, etc.

Theres a decent amount of cars on the market now that you can get for less than that!

Was halfway considering re-powering my rig in a couple years, but I would spend more re-powering that I paid for the boat in the first place!
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
Member since Aug 2011
7090 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:19 pm to
I recently had a conversation with my father about the very same thing.

He has an older xpress bass boat and was thinking of ust repowering with a new 4 stroke motor.

I have been trying to tell him to just sell the boat and get a new or newer boat altogether that is already rigged with a newer motor.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6249 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:20 pm to
Can't answer why, but seems you'd have to have a helluva boat to make it worth repowering

packages much more economical
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:21 pm to
I have always heard around $100+ per hp on a motor.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:32 pm to
Yeah, new outboard prices are crazy and late model ones hold their value very well. I know a guy that repowered his boat with a 250 Yammy that cost him around $20k, then his insurance dropped him because his boat had a 200 hp max.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:35 pm to
Be thankful you're not repowering diesel inboards
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

DownshiftAndFloorIt
Did you see that post last year where someone posted a pic of a small diesel outboard? What manufacturer was it?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:49 pm to
Yea I remember that. Not sure who makes it.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14036 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:49 pm to
Its a luxury item and people will pay for it is why.

Boats are a luxury
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

you'd have to have a helluva boat to make it worth repowering
I've kinda got that delimma right now. I bought a used 21ft Bay boat last year with an older Johnson on it. It doesn't have a lot of hours on it, has good power, but burns a lot of fuel. I've had some minor problems with it, but most came from it setting up largely unused before I bought it. I've toyed with the idea of repowering to get a more fuel efficient and "dependable" motor, but it's just not cost effective. And from what I've heard lately, newer engines aren't as dependable as I thought.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 10:00 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:00 pm to
Start your own company and start building outboards and sell them for a small profit. Mercury will buy you out promptly and you'll be able to retire.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5172 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:07 pm to
Is this the only market that Chinese manufacturimg hasnt taken over? I know you can get small Chinese outboards, but why not larger?
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13838 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 10:47 pm to
Luxury item
Supply and demand

Besides, how many automotive motors will run at wide open throttle for an hour?
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

I know you can get small Chinese outboards, but why not larger?

F that. I'd sooner take my chances on a used motor
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:39 pm to
Thats why I love my old 200hp 2 strokes. Light as hell, and only cost about 1500 to rebuild. Economy???? It's a fricking boat. There is no such thing with them.
Bring
On
Another
Thousand
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:42 pm to
200+ mile rd trips for overnighters you might change your mind on economy
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 11:43 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

I have always heard around $100+ per hp on a motor.

Yep. On the 4 strokes you can just add a zero to the HP number and that's pretty much your price. But, I've wondered the same thing. I guess the market supports it, that's why. $35k for a 350
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

200+ mile rd trips for overnighters you might change your mind on economy

Exactly!!! The 2 stroke 25hp on my little boat...frick fuel economy.

But on bigger boats? Holeeeeeeeeey shiiiit!!! The difference between 2 and 4 stroke is HUGE!!!!
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:49 pm to
Yep. I have used a 9.9hp 4 stroke for frogging though and the fuel consumption is amazing. Like, you can putt around half the night and it looks like the line the fuel was at on the tank has not moved. Hard to even burn half a 3 gallon tank in a full night with a loaded boat.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 11:49 pm to
Don't plan on ever going out that far in my boat. been out about 70mi and back before. If I'm not trying to break speed records I just run a little slower, and still get pretty good gph.
Weight, props, hull design, and setup have as much or more to do with economy as whether or not you are running 2 or 4 strokes.
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