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Why is "illegal" frowned upon when referring to a law breaking immigrant?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:05 pm
If the immigrant is breaking U.S. laws, that person is committing an illegal act, hence illegal immigrant.
Should we use the word "criminal" instead?
What the frick are they if not "illegal immigrants"?
Should we use the word "criminal" instead?
What the frick are they if not "illegal immigrants"?
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:08 pm
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:08 pm to mizzoukills
Liberals think of all of us as once "illegal".
Therefore immigrant is better sounding.
M
Therefore immigrant is better sounding.
M
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:08 pm to mizzoukills
because liberals think with their hearts not their brains
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:09 pm to mizzoukills
It is the most neutral and descriptive term that accurately portrays what they are doing in the eyes of the law and legalese alike.
It's frowned upon for PC bullshite.
It's frowned upon for PC bullshite.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:09 pm to mizzoukills
Because it insensitive and mean. 
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:13 pm to mizzoukills
It depends on he infractions. Their only crime is often laboring for a menial wage under a social security number that is not their own, paying taxes along the way.
What do I call that?
A fricking immigrant trying to stay alive in an expensive arse country.
A criminal is nefarious, malicious, and potentially dangerous. If an immigrant meets that standard, call him a criminal.
What do I call that?
A fricking immigrant trying to stay alive in an expensive arse country.
A criminal is nefarious, malicious, and potentially dangerous. If an immigrant meets that standard, call him a criminal.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:19 pm to The Third Leg
I guess you didn't see the story about the "immigrant" who just murdered a woman and kidnapped her kids in metairie. Is that malicious and dangerous enough for you?
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:24 pm to mizzoukills
Our country is being run by a bunch if fricking pussies.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:26 pm to The Third Leg
quote:
What do I call that?
A fricking immigrant trying to stay alive in an expensive arse country.
A criminal is nefarious, malicious, and potentially dangerous.
Because motives are what determines whether a behavior is criminal.
ETA: to answer OP, because "illegal" is mean and hurts feelings.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:26 pm to TJG210
quote:
I guess you didn't see the story about the "immigrant" who just murdered a woman and kidnapped her kids in metairie. Is that malicious and dangerous enough for you?
That is a criminal
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:27 pm to 90proofprofessional
Nobody reasonable criminalizes the act of trying to work. Especially calling it fraud.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:28 pm to The Third Leg
Their crime is breaking the law by not following proper immigration law and procedure.
You call it illegal.
You call it illegal.
quote:
adjective 1. forbidden by law or statute.
2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.
noun 3. Informal. illegal alien.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:28 pm to The Third Leg
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Nobody criminalizes the act of trying to work.
"Trying to work" is not the law that has been transgressed
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:29 pm to tossedoff
I don't care if you call the illegal aliens.
I care that we are classifying them as criminal aliens. Big difference.
I care that we are classifying them as criminal aliens. Big difference.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:30 pm to The Third Leg
So cool, we can all divvy them up and everybody gets a few to help support the family.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:30 pm to mizzoukills
Because calling things what they are destroys their message. It constantly reminds people that those in question are lawbreakers.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:31 pm to 90proofprofessional
I disagree with you. That is the root of the crime, the illegal alien obtaining work with a fake social security number.
We call that fraud, even though she/he actually pays the government non refundable SS tax on his wage. Thus, he is a criminal alien.
We call that fraud, even though she/he actually pays the government non refundable SS tax on his wage. Thus, he is a criminal alien.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:34 pm to The Third Leg
quote:
That is the root of the crime, the illegal alien obtaining work with a fake social security number.
Or, they could be just working for cash. Either way, it necessarily requires the illegal immigration to have occurred prior to that. They were already a criminal. By definition.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:35 pm to mizzoukills
quote:
What the frick are they if not "illegal immigrants"?
They are "undocumented immigrants".
quote:
Should we use the word "criminal" instead?
Too harsh. In the not so distant future, if you find undocumented immigrants living in your basement they will be considered undocumented residents of your home. You will not be able to have them arrested for criminal trespassing.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 9:38 pm to mizzoukills
They are actually breaking "administrative" laws not criminal law.
immigration courts fall under the executive branch not the judicial.
immigration courts fall under the executive branch not the judicial.
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