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Well, REALGM gives us a grade of D on the Asik trade
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:51 pm
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This guy sounds dumb.
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Asik is a very good player and a true difference-maker on the defensive end. Unfortunately for the Pelicans, he has two huge downsides that make the trade incredibly short sighted: Asik only has one year left before becoming an Unrestricted Free Agent and his contract calls for a substantially higher salary in the final year than his cap number.
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The crazy thing is that I really like the fit of Asik on the Pelicans for this one glorious season.
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Grade for New Orleans: D
This guy sounds dumb.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 1:52 pm
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:52 pm to Chair
quote:well if we don't retain asik i'd give the trade an F. until we get he re-signed the trade gets an I from me
This guy sounds dumb.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:53 pm to Chair
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his contract calls for a substantially higher salary in the final year than his cap number.
Unless Tom Benson wrote the article, it's a really stupid knock on the deal.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:55 pm to Chair
Who cares about his true salary..
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:55 pm to THRILLHO
quote:i'm guessing he doesn't know we have larry's rights
Unless Tom Benson wrote the article, it's a really stupid knock on the deal.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:55 pm to Chair
Obviously they are comfortable paying him $15 million this season, so I don't think people should assume they'll go cheap when he hits FA. To get Asik we gave up the asset we needed to move Gordon to put us in a position to bid on Asik next offseason. That tells me they are comfortable paying Asik a decent amount of money and having his Bird Rights puts us at the front of the line to sign him. We didn't give up a pick with the intention of renting Asik.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:13 pm to TigerinATL
The author assumes no good free agent would ever re-sign with New Orleans. It seems to be a national consensus (and completely wrong).
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:14 pm to Chair
quote:I hate to say but the dude is pretty dead on about this part of it
Asik only has one year left before becoming an Unrestricted Free Agent
If Asik walks after one year, and this move was our big off-season move, then they better fricking clean house with this front office
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:17 pm to danman6336
What are the number of teams willing to pay Asik $15 million? It looks like only us, the Sixers and Celtics. That's not necessarily a good thing that we were willing to pay more than anyone else, but I do think it's enough to keep people from assuming he's got one foot out the door already. My concerns about Asik staying are more about how he likes his role, not money. We know that he didn't like being relegated to a backup role, will playing 25 MPG as a "starter" be enough for him?
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:22 pm to TigerinATL
The center FA class of 2015 ain't nothing to sneeze at. This year there was only Gortat and Jordan Hill, and they got overpaid thanks to lack of selection. Next year Asik will be one of many good guys up for grabs, most'll probably resign, but it ain't a sure bet he walks.
Giving the trade a D is asinine. The trade's only flaws are completely unrelated to the game of basketball itself.
Giving the trade a D is asinine. The trade's only flaws are completely unrelated to the game of basketball itself.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:38 pm to Chair
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and his contract calls for a substantially higher salary in the final year than his cap number.
how does this matter...at all?
unless you're benson, this argument literally has no meaning...yet dumbfricks keep bringing it up in NBA terms
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:38 pm to danman6336
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I hate to say but the dude is pretty dead on about this part of it If Asik walks after one year, and this move was our big off-season move, then they better fricking clean house with this front office
We have his bird rights so we have the best chance at resigning him next season.
Say we have a good year and we keep the draft pick. Even if Asik walks, Gordon could very well opt out. That leaves us with our first round pick and a very good amount of cap space.
Not a bad situation at all.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:40 pm to danman6336
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If Asik walks after one year, and this move was our big off-season move, then they better fricking clean house with this front office
if asik won't re-sign after we offer a market rate, we might as well fold anyway.
if we can't retain guys we trade for, we are doomed. we have to trade for guys like this b/c we can't sign them (which is a point oft-forgotten in the criticisms of the move)
Posted on 7/13/14 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if asik won't re-sign after we offer a market rate, we might as well fold anyway.
if we can't retain guys we trade for, we are doomed
Posted on 7/13/14 at 3:43 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Gordon could very well opt out.
10 to 1 says that ain't happening. There's not another team on planet earth that will pay that joker anywhere near $15M.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 3:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Evahthang gon be aiieet.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 3:46 pm to adono
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There's not another team on planet earth that will pay that joker anywhere near $15M.
But if he has a good season, someone may give him a good longer term deal.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 3:56 pm to adono
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10 to 1 says that ain't happening. There's not another team on planet earth that will pay that joker anywhere near $15M.
With his injury history and his obvious desire to get out of New Orleans, there's a very good chance he would leave for a longer deal.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 4:33 pm to TigerinATL
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will playing 25 MPG as a "starter" be enough for him?
Honest question to respond to this: Do you think we pay him ~$15M/year to play 25mpg? I think that would be a bigger mistake then Gordon's contract.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:19 pm to Chair
What makes Asik a $15mil per year player. 5ppg 8rpg
I know he's a defensive presence. But $15mil per year is too high for his numbers.
What am I missing here?
I know he's a defensive presence. But $15mil per year is too high for his numbers.
What am I missing here?
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