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I am one of those liberals that you'll pay to have out of America.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:39 am
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:39 am
I will gladly renounce my US citizenship if this board can raise the funds necessary for me to become a citizen of the UK.
Quit talking about it. Do it. I'm one of those people who hate 'Merica and that you'll happily see out of the country.
Quit talking about it. Do it. I'm one of those people who hate 'Merica and that you'll happily see out of the country.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 1:40 am
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Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:40 am to FT
I agree they're aren't people, but that doesn't give the government the right tot control/regulate them
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:42 am to FT
A corporation is a group of people.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:49 am to RidiculousHype
quote:Atheism is a person. Islam is a person.
A corporation is a group of people.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:49 am to FT
To quote myself...
And I agree with what's being quoted.
quote:quote:
They aren't "people" in the biological sense. They are an entity recognized by law to have protections against government.
On the corporations are not people thing, if they're going to be taxed and regulated by the gov't as a group of people operating under a name, then they deserve and have every right to to voice their desire for whatever public policy they feel is best. Taxation with representation and why citizens united was a good decision by SCOTUS.
And I agree with what's being quoted.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:55 am to Sentrius
quote:
if they're going to be taxed and regulated by the gov't as a group of people operating under a name, then they deserve and have every right to to voice their desire for whatever public policy they feel is best. Taxation with representation and why citizens united was a good decision by SCOTUS.
Those citizens were already represented, you incredible dolt. Giving them two votes was a good idea? Making their corporation a new person with more rights than them was a good idea?
Jesus Christ, at some point you have to wonder who raised these people.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:55 am to FT
quote:This is not a phrase that is meant to be taken literally, as the court made clear in the 19th century.
Corporations aren't people.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:57 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:And as the court has codified recently.
This is not a phrase that is meant to be taken literally, as the court made clear in the 19th century.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:59 am to FT
Let me add something: Guess what awesome thing will happen when corporations are run by people you don't like?
shite you don't like. Because they'll be able to buy votes.
frick, why isn't this obvious? You're, if anything, accelerating the complete demise of the America of yore you think existed and never did.
shite you don't like. Because they'll be able to buy votes.
frick, why isn't this obvious? You're, if anything, accelerating the complete demise of the America of yore you think existed and never did.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 12:59 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
This is not a phrase that is meant to be taken literally, as the court made clear in the 19th century.
Yes, but it now seems a corporation can also have a religious belief. I don't think that was envisioned by prior decisions.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:02 am to wfeliciana
quote:It wasn't, but they're excited now because a trinket store doesn't have to provide birth control.
Yes, but it now seems a corporation can also have a religious belief. I don't think that was envisioned by prior decisions.
I'm tempted to start about a zillion stores violating every possible religious law just to see where this goes. It's an incredibly irresponsible ruling.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 1:03 am
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:04 am to FT
Also, corporations still aren't people.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:05 am to FT
quote:
t's an incredibly irresponsible ruling.
Yes, Justice Ginsberg got it right in her dissent.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:06 am to FT
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:06 am to wfeliciana
quote:This alter should be reinstated. He seems like a good dude.
Yes, Justice Ginsberg got it right in her dissent.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:07 am to FT
I'm not an alter.
ETA: But thanks.
ETA: But thanks.
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 1:13 am
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:09 am to RollTide1987
Stockholders own corporations. Plus, big difference between expressing an opinion and this ruling.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:09 am to FT
The ruling did not address Hobby Lobby's claims under the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 1:11 am to RollTide1987
Because their voices are different from their rights.
Voicing an opinion is a right (not for a corporation, because it isn't a person, but let's continue anyway). Voicing an opinion while spending huge amounts of money in the legislature to make sure your opinion seems intelligent isn't. Further, corporations and unions can spend however much they like on campaign funds. So... How, in the actual frick, are we being represented?
By contributing to PACs? By spending money with certain corporations? By being members of unions?
I had this weird idea where we were just voting, but maybe that's a bit too complicated...
Voicing an opinion is a right (not for a corporation, because it isn't a person, but let's continue anyway). Voicing an opinion while spending huge amounts of money in the legislature to make sure your opinion seems intelligent isn't. Further, corporations and unions can spend however much they like on campaign funds. So... How, in the actual frick, are we being represented?
By contributing to PACs? By spending money with certain corporations? By being members of unions?
I had this weird idea where we were just voting, but maybe that's a bit too complicated...
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 1:14 am
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