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How historical a Cleveland title would be in terms of James' legacy
Posted on 7/12/14 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 9:50 am
If you look at a list of tv markets, you'll be hard-pressed to find an instance where a top-tier player chose to go to a market smaller than Miami and won a title, much less two. Miami is #16; Cleveland is #17.
Milwaukee, Point B of Oscar Robertson, had drafted Alcindor; that's the closest example I can think of.
San Antonio also stands out as the most successful franchise in the post-Jordan era and in the #37 North American tv market, but both their top tier players were drafted.
NBA Markets smaller than Miami and Cleveland:
Denver
Orlando
Sacramento
Portland
Charlotte
Indiana
Utah
Milwaukee
San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Memphis
New Orleans
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Milwaukee, Point B of Oscar Robertson, had drafted Alcindor; that's the closest example I can think of.
San Antonio also stands out as the most successful franchise in the post-Jordan era and in the #37 North American tv market, but both their top tier players were drafted.
NBA Markets smaller than Miami and Cleveland:
Denver
Orlando
Sacramento
Portland
Charlotte
Indiana
Utah
Milwaukee
San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Memphis
New Orleans
LINK
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Rank Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago
4 Philadelphia
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth
6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose
7 Boston
8 Atlanta
9 Washington, DC
10 Houston
11 Detroit
12 Phoenix
13 Tampa-St. Petersburg
14 Seattle-Tacoma
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul
16 Miami-Ft.Lauderdale
17 Cleveland-Akron
18 Denver
19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne
20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto
21 St. Louis
22 Portland, OR
23 Pittsburgh
24 Charlotte, NC
25 Indianapolis
26 Baltimore
27 Raleigh-Durham
28 San Diego
29 Nashville
30 Hartford-New Haven
31 Kansas City
32 Columbus, OH
33 Salt Lake City
34 Cincinnati
35 Milwaukee
36 Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville-Anderson
37 San Antonio
38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce
39 Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek
40 Birmingham
41 Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York
42 Las Vegas
43 Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News
44 Albuquerque-Santa Fe
45 Oklahoma City
46 Greensboro-High Point-Winston-Salem
47 Jacksonville, FL
48 Memphis
49 Austin
50 Louisville
51 Buffalo
52 Providence-New Bedford
53 New Orleans
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Posted on 7/12/14 at 9:55 am to ballscaster
It would be great for his legacy. I think he would be loved by many and most will have forgiven him for his Miami Heat charade. It would be such an awesome story and Cleveland deserves it.
He has a chance to cement his legacy as the second greatest basketball player to ever live.
He has a chance to cement his legacy as the second greatest basketball player to ever live.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 9:59 am to PhiTiger1764
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second greatest basketball player to ever live.
just had to throw in that jabPosted on 7/12/14 at 9:59 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:2/10
He has a chance to cement his legacy as the second greatest basketball player to ever live.
This post was edited on 7/12 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:00 am to ballscaster
There would definitely be books and movies made about that title locally in Cleveland.
From a national standpoint it would depend on how good the team was compared to other teams that won it all.
From a national standpoint it would depend on how good the team was compared to other teams that won it all.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:10 am to ballscaster
His legacy would've been so much better if he stuck it out with Cleveland
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:11 am to c on z
quote:Win/win for Lebron in this case. Either the team is among the greatest of all time, in which case Lebron gets credit for being Finals MVP for one of the all time greatest teams, or the team other than Lebron sucks shite, and Lebron gets credit for achieving the impossible.
From a national standpoint it would depend on how good the team was compared to other teams that won it all.
When all the all-time greats get together and play golf and boast about their accomplishments, Lebron wins the pissing contest when he says, "Aight lemme aks y'all this: who here can say they brought a title to Cleveland? Me, son. Suck my dick."
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:12 am to ballscaster
Since they won that 1964 NFL Title there has been way too many heartbreaks for that city. It'd be an incredible story for him.
Disney is on standby
Disney is on standby
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:14 am to ballscaster
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When all the all-time greats get together and play golf and boast about their accomplishments, Lebron wins the pissing contest when he says, "Aight lemme aks y'all this: who here can say they brought a title to Cleveland? Me, son.
yeah that is a different kind of bragging right for sure
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:14 am to ballscaster
quote:
When all the all-time greats get together and play golf and boast about their accomplishments, Lebron wins the pissing contest when he says, "Aight lemme aks y'all this: who here can say they brought a title to Cleveland? Me, son. Suck my dick."
And then the all time greats will laugh their asses off.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:46 am to Weagle25
quote:...before agreeing that it's funny because it's true.
And then the all time greats will laugh their asses off.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:23 am to ballscaster
If Lebron can bring a title to Cleveland, freaking Cleveland, then Lebron can bring world peace.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:24 am to Weagle25
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His legacy would've been so much better if he stuck it out with Cleveland
He wouldn't have ever won a title with Cleveland because they would have continued to do a shite job of putting players around him and they'd have none of those #1 draft picks.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:50 am to ballscaster
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you'll be hard-pressed to find an instance where a top-tier player chose to go to a market smaller than Miami
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Miami is #16; Cleveland is #17
You need to send this on blast to the sports media. They're running out of ways to deify LeBron for going back to his original team.
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How historical a Cleveland title would be in terms of James' legacy
More titles always helps.
Would it mean something extra just because it was Cleveland? Maybe for a year or two until everybody ran that angle into the ground and the rest of the world starts to wonder why they should give a crap in the first place that some random city finally got one.
And, of course, it also depends on how many Super Bowl MVPs Johnny Football gets first.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 12:27 pm to ballscaster
The King is a Ray Allen 5 seconds to go, 3 point shot miss from being 1-3 in the Finals.And this is with his hand picked team.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 12:39 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:
Cleveland deserves it.
Why does everyone keep saying this? Seriously question all I know cleveland as is shitty sports teams. Is there some horrible thing i am missing? I feel like everyone thinks their team "deserves" it
Posted on 7/12/14 at 12:51 pm to Keltic Tiger
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The King is a Ray Allen 5 seconds to go, 3 point shot miss from being 1-3 in the Finals.And this is with his hand picked team
This could be said of any championship winner or loser. The Pats are one fluke escape and catch from an undefeated season...Rangers one strike from a World Series title...Texas one Reggie Bush fumble away from losing, etc. Luck is part of winning, it happened the way it did and that's it.
Hell Peyton Manning has a terrible playoff record and 1-2 in Super Bowls, but we all still think of him as one of the all time greats.
LeBron bringing a title there solidifies it imo, top 5 all time no question. Imagine if he brings multiple ones.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 12:54 pm to Keltic Tiger
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The King is a Ray Allen 5 seconds to go, 3 point shot miss from being 1-3 in the Finals.And this is with his hand picked team
This.
He will win zero championships in Cleveland. The melt when he bolts in three years AGAIN. .. will be epic
Posted on 7/12/14 at 12:55 pm to wish i was tebow
It's been 9 years since Katrina...New Orleans DESERVES to have the Pelicans and Saints both win championships
Posted on 7/12/14 at 12:58 pm to Spaulding Smails
well Brees is going into the HOF for choosing New Orleans and then winning a ring here...
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