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Amtrak is a heavily-subsidized rail service with Russian quality at Swiss prices

Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:21 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:21 am
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Amtrak riders had a pretty rough Fourth of July weekend, at least judging by the talk of delays and outages in my Twitter feed. Vox.com's Max Fisher summed up the sentiment best: "Amtrak is a heavily-subsidized rail service with Russian quality at Swiss prices. It is the shame of the developed world." As it turns out, he was being a little too generous.

Swiss rail travel is actually affordable compared to the U.S. A weekend round trip between Geneva and Zurich costs about $189, or $0.53 per mile traveled. A weekend round-trip from D.C. to New York, on trains leaving at a reasonable hour (e.g., not in the middle of the night) will run you about twice that much, or $0.98 per mile. And if you were to take the Acela you'd be paying almost twice as much as that for the privilege of arriving 35 minutes earlier.



Never got why we don't have decent rail service.


Washington Post article
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33839 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:27 am to
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Never got why we don't have decent rail service.


Political board has the answers you seek.

Rail and telecom in this country are a travesty.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:31 am to
Yeah, living in Asia and Europe, you start to realize how much this country needs a decent railway system. It's just fricking embarrassing how far behind we are in that regard compared to even 3rd world countries.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40056 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:34 am to
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Never got why we don't have decent rail service.


because it is run by the fed gov.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10036 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:38 am to
I have always found the Northeast to have a good setup that is reasonably priced. Obviously it's more compact and feasible there.

I took Amtrak from Seattle to Portland for $20 a few years ago. Went from Chicago to NYC in 2012, that was only $150.

Their employees are scum though. Wal Mart service at Bloomingdales prices in that bar cart.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20716 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:38 am to
It's not surprising that I know very few people that use Amtrak. I remember researching prices for a trip and it was more expensive than flying, which makes no sense. If the gov't would cut them loose, they'd go out of business easily.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:45 am to
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"Amtrak is a heavily-subsidized rail service with Democratic Republic of the Congo quality at NASA prices. It would be the shame of Mongolia.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:52 am to
I't actually cheaper to go from Moscow to Vladivostok on the Trans-siberian riding first class than it is to get an Amtrak ticket to go from Houston to LA.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126843 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 10:57 am to
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with Russian quality
The author has obviously never ridden on a Russian train.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2471 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:02 am to
Long haul commuter rail is pointless and will never be cost efficient in the US - take an airplane
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97604 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:04 am to
There's no way I'd ever travel somewhere on a train
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33839 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:07 am to
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The author has obviously never ridden on a Russian train.


I assume he's referring to 3rd class travel. It's nice if you live out of hostels.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10036 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:08 am to
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There's no way I'd ever travel somewhere on a train

It's way more convenient than flying in the Northeast, many business travelers.

On my Chicago to NYC trek there was a lot of anti-Obama Teabaggery going on. People using rail passes to travel the nation going to far right rallies and such, lamenting the lazy poors that don't work. Great entertainment.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
50940 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:12 am to
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It's way more convenient than flying in the Northeas 



or driving. fricking trying to get from Boston to NYC down I95. 95 through Conn. is a complete shite show.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5823 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:13 am to

Japan rail service is amazing. Fast, cheap, comfortable, and ALWAYS on time.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69040 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:17 am to
I wouldn't either. My dad said the train to Chicago was fun and you drink and party with who-dats going to the game. But I would rather fly. MSY-MDW in 2 hours and some change and usually for less than $200 each way.

Posted by Swampeast
On the Mississippi
Member since Feb 2014
141 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:42 am to
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I have always found the Northeast to have a good setup that is reasonably priced. Obviously it's more compact and feasible there.

"...they are grandfathered in and need not operate at a profit as do any newly established routes."

FIFY
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:46 am to
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Never got why we don't have decent rail service.


because it is run by the fed gov.


its only quasi run by the feds, its run as a for profit company.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66968 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:49 am to
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its only quasi run by the feds, its run as a for profit company.


Exactly, it has all of the non-competition and unreliability of a government entity paired with the cost-slashing and profit gouging of the private sector. It's the worst of both world.
Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
6171 posts
Posted on 7/11/14 at 11:51 am to
I like Amtrak
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