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Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"
Posted by a want on 7/10/14 at 2:31 pm20
CNN: Should the government step in to prevent hot car deaths.
Truly breathtaking.
CNN is shite.
Truly breathtaking.
quote:
(CNN) -- While the case of the Georgia father accused of intentionally leaving his toddler son to die in a hot car continues to grip the nation, it has also sparked a debate about whether more could be done to prevent the accidental deaths of children from heatstroke inside a car.
Is it an issue for the automakers to tackle voluntarily? Should the federal government mandate a driver-reminder alert? Is it solely a matter of parental responsibility? Those are just some of the questions parents across the country, experts and public officials are asking.
CNN is shite.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by constant cough on 7/10/14 at 2:32 pm to a want
Well I know I feel safer with Big Bother watching over us.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by DonChowder on 7/10/14 at 2:36 pm to a want
quote:Agreed.
Truly breathtaking.
quote:Agreed with slight edit.
CNN is steaming dogshit.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by Hog on the Hill on 7/10/14 at 2:37 pm to a want
I actually just read the article and it seemed to be a reasonable discussion of this issue. I think you judged it too quickly.
If I hadn't read it, I wouldn't have known this:
I think it's a great idea to pass a law to protect people who break into a car to rescue a child who's been left inside on a hot day. That is a good example of how government can take steps to protect children in these cases without getting too involved in how people live their lives.
The CNN article didn't say, "The government SHOULD help stop hot car deaths," it posted the question, "Should the government take action?" Then it looked at both sides.
I really don't see the problem.
If I hadn't read it, I wouldn't have known this:
quote:
States across the country aren't waiting for the federal government or the auto industry to step in, and are calling for new laws on the books. Nineteen states currently make it illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle, according to KidsAndCars.org. Two of those states are doing more: A new law in Tennessee now protects bystanders who break into a hot car to rescue a child from being held liable for damages, and in Connecticut, there is a push to stiffen penalties for leaving a child unattended in a car.
I think it's a great idea to pass a law to protect people who break into a car to rescue a child who's been left inside on a hot day. That is a good example of how government can take steps to protect children in these cases without getting too involved in how people live their lives.
The CNN article didn't say, "The government SHOULD help stop hot car deaths," it posted the question, "Should the government take action?" Then it looked at both sides.
I really don't see the problem.
This post was edited on 7/10 at 2:40 pm
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by Lsut81 on 7/10/14 at 2:39 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:
bystanders who break into a hot car to rescue a child from being held liable for damages
I would think this would be common fricking sense... I've recently seen signs on roads "If a child is left in a car, please call 911". If I see a child left in a car, I'm going to smash the window prior to calling 911.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by SpidermanTUba on 7/10/14 at 2:40 pm to a want
quote:
CNN: Should the government step in to prevent hot car deaths.
Yes.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by Rohan2Reed on 7/10/14 at 2:40 pm to a want
quote:
it has also sparked a debate about whether more could be done to prevent the accidental deaths of children from heatstroke inside a car.
A real debate? Or is CNN simply begging the question here?
quote:
Those are just some of the questions parents across the country, experts and public officials are asking.
Experts huh? Well now we know this needs to be taken seriously.
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re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by Hog on the Hill on 7/10/14 at 2:40 pm to Lsut81
quote:Of course, but it's good that Tennessee actually passed a law to remove any liability from the person who takes action. As you know, the law is not always reasonable. Just because it makes sense to break in doesn't mean you won't get sued for damages by the car's owner. That kind of bullshite happens all the time.
I would think this would be common fricking sense... I've recently seen signs on roads "If a child is left in a car, please call 911". If I see a child left in a car, I'm going to smash the window prior to calling 911.
In Tennessee, it's no longer an issue.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by SpidermanTUba on 7/10/14 at 2:41 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:
Nineteen states currently make it illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle
That should have been done decades ago.
The problem is, in many if not all of these cases - the parents simply forget. There was a WaPO (I think) article on this recently where they delve into the psychology of how this happens.
Basically - when you are under severe stress - your mind starts running on the portion of your brain that is inherited from a fricking lizard. Couple that with a change in routine (the lizard brain still knows the routine) - coupled to the kid falling asleep in the car - and you've got a perfect recipe for disaster. I guarantee you none of the parents this happens to ever saw it coming.
If you have a young child and don't have some sort of reminder system - you're really putting yourself at risk.
THIS IS WHAT WE USE
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It's basically the same idea behind the giant hunk of wood they attach to gas station bathroom keys - unless you're hammered drunk there's no way you're walking away with it and not noticing.
This post was edited on 7/10 at 2:45 pm
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by C on 7/10/14 at 2:43 pm to Hog on the Hill
quote:
Nineteen states currently make it illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle
To me this law isn't related to hot car deaths. How often does someone intentionally leave their kid in a car and the kid dies due to heat? It's the ones that forgot that causes death. Now there are other reasons why this maybe should be illegal but this isn't one.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by SSpaniel on 7/10/14 at 2:44 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
The problem is, in many if not all of these cases - the parents simply forget.
That is absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by SpidermanTUba on 7/10/14 at 2:46 pm to SSpaniel
quote:
That is absolutely no excuse whatsoever.
Whoever said it was?
This post was edited on 7/10 at 2:46 pm
I think the good samaritan law that every state has would hold someone harmless for breaking a car window to save the life of a child.
But the law, like people, is stupid sometimes.
But the law, like people, is stupid sometimes.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by Hog on the Hill on 7/10/14 at 2:48 pm to FT
quote:Well, you see, it has "CNN" on it, and I spent about 10 seconds reading the headline and the opening paragraph, and my immediate reaction was that it was stupid, so that settled it.
I'm not sure why this article is breathtaking, or how it proves that CNN is shite. It wasn't like it was an advocacy article.
re: Dumbest story I've ever read:"Should the gov...help stop hot car deaths"Posted by SpidermanTUba on 7/10/14 at 2:48 pm to SpidermanTUba
Here's the WaPo article I was talking about:
WARNING: The article is kinda disturbing - not for the faint of heart.
LINK
WARNING: The article is kinda disturbing - not for the faint of heart.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/10 at 2:49 pm
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