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A question about the SCOTUS decision to treat corporations as people

Posted on 7/8/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 3:07 pm
Are corporations now treated the same as unions when it comes to campaign contributions, or is there a difference between how the two (corporations and unions) are now treated under the law vis a vis campaign contributions.

TIA.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 3:12 pm to
The SCOTUS did NOT just decide to treat corporations as "people."

Corporations are juridical persons and have been recognized to have rights against government action since 1888.
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

The SCOTUS did NOT just decide to treat corporations as "people."

Corporations are juridical persons and have been recognized to have rights against government action since 1888.
I'm talking about the most recent SCOTUS decision that seems to have so many on the left up in arms. My question is are corporations and unions now treated the same vis a vis campaign contributions?
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:11 pm to
Anybody?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:13 pm to
No one knows what the hell you're talking about.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:15 pm to
Corporations and Unions aren't allowed to contribute to directly to Candidates or National Committees.

PACs that are affiliated with either, have different rules.
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

No one knows what the hell you're talking about.
My bad. I'm talking about the 2012 Citizen's united SCOTUS decision.

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Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:39 pm to
That is more of a free speech ruling.

They still can't contribute to candidates and RNC/DNC.


They have to go through super-PACs.

Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:40 pm to
I'm brain dead. I meant the 2012 Montana case.

Sorry bro. I'm tired.

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This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

In the Montana case, the Supreme Court had the chance to revisit its deeply flawed 2010 decision in Citizens United. But despite the urgings of members of the Court itself and a public shell-shocked by the recent torrent of unregulated corporate expenditures, the Court chose instead to double down and reaffirm the conclusion of Citizens United that corporations are people -- at least as far as the First Amendment is concerned.


Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Are corporations now treated the same as unions when it comes to campaign contributions, or is there a difference between how the two (corporations and unions) are now treated under the law vis a vis campaign contributions.


They are the same.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:47 pm to
So unions and corporations are treated the same in this decision, correct?

I'm asking because every time I hear someone on the left talk about this they only mention corporations, never unions. My thought is that whatever decision is made it should apply equally to corporations and to unions.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

My thought is that whatever decision is made it should apply equally to corporations and to unions.


Corporations are subject to Anti-Trust regulations, Unions are not.

They are the same in the realm of campaign finance, however. They can't contribute to federal National Parties or Candidates, but can contribute unlimited funds to PACs but much of that needs to be disclosed.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

They are the same in the realm of campaign finance, however.
That's what I was looking for. Thanks.

Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

They are the same.
Thanks Spidey.

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