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How good is Chris Bosh? (spinoff from FA thread)
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:28 pm
Had what I thought was an interesting discussion in the sticky FA thread, but it's kinda winding down because we don't wanna sidetrack that thread, so, spinoff time.
Is Bosh worth a max deal? Where does he rank in terms of the best 4s and 5s in the NBA?
I'm of the opinion that he's not quite a max player, but pretty close, and that he'll end up with a max deal from somebody by the end of this summer because there's a lot of willing buyers.
Is Bosh worth a max deal? Where does he rank in terms of the best 4s and 5s in the NBA?
I'm of the opinion that he's not quite a max player, but pretty close, and that he'll end up with a max deal from somebody by the end of this summer because there's a lot of willing buyers.
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:31 pm to lsutothetop
Lawd
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:32 pm to lsutothetop
I think Bosh was the second best player in Miami, but since Wade usually thought he himself was better than LeBron, the offense rarely went through or even to Bosh.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:32 pm to lsutothetop
He's as good as how his team decides to use him.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:33 pm to lsutothetop
Not many people are worth a max contract but they still get them. I think he falls into this category.
As the number 1 option for a team he would easily get 22+ points and 9+ rebounds
Bosh was the heats second best option this season but they still used him as the 3rd.
He still has a elite low post game, he just rarely uses it bc the heats philosophy doesn't get him the ball on the block very often.
Instead he has been forced more to te perimeter were he has been one of the best mid range shooters of any big and has started to develop a pretty good 3 point shot.
As the number 1 option for a team he would easily get 22+ points and 9+ rebounds
Bosh was the heats second best option this season but they still used him as the 3rd.
He still has a elite low post game, he just rarely uses it bc the heats philosophy doesn't get him the ball on the block very often.
Instead he has been forced more to te perimeter were he has been one of the best mid range shooters of any big and has started to develop a pretty good 3 point shot.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:36 pm to Dr. Shultz
quote:
Not many people are worth a max contract but they still get them. I think he falls into this category.
Agree
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As the number 1 option for a team he would easily get 22+ points and 9+ rebounds
Especially with the "easily" qualifier, disagree here. He's probably at or close to a 20/10 guy at his ceiling now, getting up in age and he doesn't bang around as much as he used to, by his own admission.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:41 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:That's not on , bosh's role is how Spo and Riley want it.
I think Bosh was the second best player in Miami, but since Wade usually thought he himself was better than LeBron, the offense rarely went through or even to Bosh.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:42 pm to lsutothetop
quote:I think he's better now than he used to be.
He's probably at or close to a 20/10 guy at his ceiling now, getting up in age and he doesn't bang around as much as he used to, by his own admission.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:42 pm to Dr. Shultz
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Not many people are worth a max contract but they still get them. I think he falls into this category.
This was my point from the other thread.
Given other players that have received max contracts, Bosh deserves one and will get one if he decides to leave Miami.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:43 pm to shel311
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I think he's better now than he used to be.
I said that in the other thread. Watch out for the hornet coming after you.
He will tell you that shooting 12/35 (34%) from three in '06-07' is the same as shooting 74/218 (34%) from three in 13'-14'.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:43 pm to lsutothetop
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Is Bosh worth a max deal?
hell no
he'll probably get it though since owners are stupid and have bigger holes being burning in their pockets than bum that just got a $5 spot next to a liquor store.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:47 pm to shel311
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I think he's better now than he used to be.
Based on what exactly? He's been extremely efficient in his limited role but at the same time he's benefited from having Wade and Lebron, which helps a lot.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:48 pm to Mohamed Ali
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He will tell you that shooting 12/35 (34%) from three in '06-07' is the same as shooting 74/218 (34%) from three in 13'-14'.
You pointed to his three point shooting to support your claim. That's obviously not evidence he's better today. You're going to need more than that.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:49 pm to castorinho
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He's been extremely efficient in his limited role
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but at the same time he's benefited from having Wade and Lebron, which helps a lot.
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Based on what exactly?
He was a 20/10 player before joining the Heat. With the Heat he has been in a limited role, as you said. His production has gone down because of it.
If anything, playing with Bron and Wade has hurt his game. I don't think that's up for debate...
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:52 pm to Mohamed Ali
In 07-08, Bosh shot 148/360 inbetween 16 feet and the 3 point line. That is 41%.
Last season, bosh shot 153/318 (48%) from that same distance.
His offensive game has expanded, from both mid range & 3 point.
Last season, bosh shot 153/318 (48%) from that same distance.
His offensive game has expanded, from both mid range & 3 point.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:53 pm to Mohamed Ali
I'll also say though, if max is like $25mil/year for him, he's not worth that.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:53 pm to shel311
He's not eligible for that type of max deal, unless I'm mistaken.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:57 pm to shel311
Anyone who thinks bosh is better now than when he got to Miami is an idiot.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:58 pm to The_Hornet
Says the person who said Malone > Lebron
Posted on 7/5/14 at 2:58 pm to Mohamed Ali
quote:well he's not wrong
Says the person who said Malone > Lebron
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