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The Army wants a harder-hitting pistol
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:11 am
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:23 am to VetteGuy
10mm is the only obvious answer.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:34 am to VetteGuy
We assisted on a ftx for two Special Forces groups a couple of summers ago. I was talking to one young stud about their side arms and he told me he used some leave time helping their armourer rebuild a 1911 for each team member. He said that when their deployment was over the teams still there were fighting over the pistols.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:37 am to Ice Cream Sammich
What about the .357 sig?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:46 am to Geauxtiga
I think they need to play around with some smaller caliber bullets and bigger cases. Similar to the 5.7 x 28. Something around 6-7mm that's fast. The smaller diameter bullets and faster will help keep recoil down and faster bullet creates more shock in a wound channel.
Deer rifles are pretty much all smaller that 9mm
Deer rifles are pretty much all smaller that 9mm
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:47 am to VetteGuy
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I talked to a Chicago cop that shot a guy eight times with a .45 to kill him and that was a 230 grain Hydra-Shok,"
Holy shite Batman!!
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:51 am to 4LSU2
I wonder how a 10mm necked down to 6.5-7mm would perform.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:04 am to bbvdd
Go back to the goddamned 1911! 
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:06 am to Geauxtiga
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The MHS will be an open-caliber competition that will evaluate larger rounds such as .357 Sig, .40 S&W and .45 ACP.
All of these calibers have more power and are better than the 9mm. Glad out armed forces are not scared of a little recoil.
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"Most of the guns in .40 caliber on the market right now were actually designed to be 9mm originally and then turned into .40 calibers later," Langdon told Military.com.
Put the 40 caliber on a 45 frame instead of the wimpy 9mm frame and you eliminate most of the recoil thus making the 9mm obsolete except for target shooting.
This post was edited on 7/4/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:11 am to ctiger69
The glaringly obvious thing to me is that they should allow them to use expanding ammunition. Until they do that, when it comes to hardball ammo, the bigger the bullet, the bigger the hole.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:14 am to VetteGuy
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The MHS would replace the Army's inventory of more than 200,000 outdated M9 pistols and several thousand M11 9mm pistols
So does this mean we'll have the option of buying one at great price?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:21 am to PillageUrVillage
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So does this mean we'll have the option of buying one at great price?
Not a chance. They will be equally distributed to the cartels in Mexico and the ISIS movement in the Middle East.
There's no way the government is going to let this number of firearms end up in he hands of law-abiding citizens.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:23 am to 4LSU2
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There's no way the government is going to let this number of firearms end up in he hands of law-abiding citizens
True... I sometimes forget about the authoritarians in Washington.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:28 am to PillageUrVillage
Related question:
How is the 223/556 the round that is defending the USA? I mean it's just a 22 on steroids practically? How does it suffice compared to say the ole .30?
How is the 223/556 the round that is defending the USA? I mean it's just a 22 on steroids practically? How does it suffice compared to say the ole .30?
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:28 am to VetteGuy
Maybe they should put more focus on marksmanship vs spray and pray.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:35 am to Geauxtiga
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What about the .357 sig?
This is the best one IMHO.
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:51 am to 4LSU2
quote:
I talked to a Chicago cop that shot a guy eight times with a .45 to kill him and that was a 230 grain Hydra-Shok,"
that cop must have been a bad shot or something
Posted on 7/4/14 at 10:56 am to aaronb023
Was the perp on PCP??
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:03 am to jimbeam
designed to injure soldier on battlefield, and take up to 2 soldiers to assist injured out of action. at least that's what I've read..
Posted on 7/4/14 at 11:06 am to PillageUrVillage
on PCP you can take a lickin and keep on tickin
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