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Anyone else feel cynical about the 4th of July holiday?
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:59 pm
What percentage of people riding around the lake, waving a flag, or listening to Lee Greenwood actually WANT to be free?
I might be getting too pessimistic about people and future.
I might be getting too pessimistic about people and future.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 5:00 pm
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:02 pm to weagle99
We all want to be free, we simply have different defintions of what that means.
For folks like Jeauxbleaux and Rex, freedom means freedom from unaffordable goods and the price system. For them, the ultimate expression of freedom is freedom from economic want.
For folks on the right, freedom means freedom from excessive government coercion in economic affairs.
For folks like Jeauxbleaux and Rex, freedom means freedom from unaffordable goods and the price system. For them, the ultimate expression of freedom is freedom from economic want.
For folks on the right, freedom means freedom from excessive government coercion in economic affairs.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:03 pm to weagle99
Love it or leave it. You can go be a Commie if you don't like Lee Greenwood
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:09 pm to weagle99
quote:
What percentage of people riding around the lake, waving a flag, or listening to Lee Greenwood actually WANT to be free?
Neal Boortz, is that you ?
He hated on "Independence Day" for YEARS for just that reason.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:10 pm to weagle99
I just dislike all the drunk drivers and people popping fireworks for weeks on end.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:10 pm to weagle99
This girl right here.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:11 pm to weagle99
frick no.
Murica!
Murica!
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:16 pm to weagle99
Not me. It's probably my favorite holiday.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:17 pm to weagle99
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weagle99
Why do you hate our Freedom?
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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For folks on the right, freedom means freedom from excessive government coercion in economic affairs.
but NOT from freedom of govt to impose massive restrictions on personal liberty, a lot of right wingers really do support big gov.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:19 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
The IRS scandal has me more than a little upset.
I did not envision that happening.
It's one thing to fear the IRS ... simply because they are the IRS ... and a person might be a little "lax" when filing taxes and hope it's all good.
It's something else to wonder if a simple opinion, contribution, or support ... might trigger a Democrat-led IRS inquisition with the goal of destroying you financially.
But I will still enjoy this holiday ... my favorite of all American holidays. Everything about having fun, relaxing, and being free ... nothing about gifts, in-laws, etc.
Drink beer, etc. Eat good food. Be merry. Shoot fireworks.
Life is good.
I did not envision that happening.
It's one thing to fear the IRS ... simply because they are the IRS ... and a person might be a little "lax" when filing taxes and hope it's all good.
It's something else to wonder if a simple opinion, contribution, or support ... might trigger a Democrat-led IRS inquisition with the goal of destroying you financially.
But I will still enjoy this holiday ... my favorite of all American holidays. Everything about having fun, relaxing, and being free ... nothing about gifts, in-laws, etc.
Drink beer, etc. Eat good food. Be merry. Shoot fireworks.
Life is good.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:28 pm to weagle99
Love the 4th.
Fireworks tonight
Parades tomorrow
Soap Box Derby, live music, sand castle contests,etc.
Got to meet Sen Begich today. He met in the garage that one of our companies own. Invited people from the Brewery and a couple other businesses to talk. He talked a bit then answered some questions. Don't agree with everything he stands for, but impressed with him coming to meet us in humble surroundings and talking, even some one on one time.
Very Alaskan setting. In a garage, in the picture present are a dog, commercial fisherman, lodge owner, heliskiing guide, mechanic, artist and a brewery owner.
Fireworks tonight
Parades tomorrow
Soap Box Derby, live music, sand castle contests,etc.
Got to meet Sen Begich today. He met in the garage that one of our companies own. Invited people from the Brewery and a couple other businesses to talk. He talked a bit then answered some questions. Don't agree with everything he stands for, but impressed with him coming to meet us in humble surroundings and talking, even some one on one time.
Very Alaskan setting. In a garage, in the picture present are a dog, commercial fisherman, lodge owner, heliskiing guide, mechanic, artist and a brewery owner.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
csb
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:46 pm to weagle99
freedom means different things to different folks these days.
I'm not cynical about the 4th though because of what freedom I perceive the founders to have stood for and the freedoms I perceive to have been fought for that caused the 4th to exist as a holiday.
I'm not cynical about the 4th though because of what freedom I perceive the founders to have stood for and the freedoms I perceive to have been fought for that caused the 4th to exist as a holiday.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:59 pm to weagle99
quote:
I might be getting too pessimistic
You might have lost all perspective.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 6:21 pm to weagle99
My pessimism is rooted in the steadfast knowledge that the men of 1776 would projectile vomit at what this nation has become and the subjugation that we are willing to tolerate.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 6:28 pm to udtiger
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My pessimism is rooted in the steadfast knowledge that the men of 1776 would projectile vomit at what this nation has become and the subjugation that we are willing to tolerate.
This is my point.
Can anyone say that America is becoming a freer nation overall as time goes on? That we have more freedom today than 15 years ago?
I assume it depends on what is important to you, and less so on the vision of the framers outlined in the Constitution.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 7/3/14 at 6:42 pm to weagle99
I'm cool with it all unless I'm around some pond scum maggot frick that plays GOD BLESS AMERICA.
What an awful song.
What an awful song.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 6:51 pm to weagle99
I used to be, but after world travel I'm not. There are so many freedoms we have that we simply take for granted and we should fight the slightest infringement of those rights
I imagine most of the planet can't relate to a bunch of booze,
Chicks in bikinis, smoked sausage/burgers/other bad for you foods, fireworks, etc...
We really take a lot for granted
I imagine most of the planet can't relate to a bunch of booze,
Chicks in bikinis, smoked sausage/burgers/other bad for you foods, fireworks, etc...
We really take a lot for granted
Posted on 7/3/14 at 6:58 pm to constant cough
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I just dislike all the drunk drivers and people popping fireworks for weeks on end.
Holy shite. I never thought me and cc would actually agree on something.
Now if I can just get him to renounce conservativism.
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