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Jonathan Lucroy for MVP

Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:41 pm
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Now, at age 28, Lucroy is suddenly mounting a campaign of conquest and destruction in the National League. He’s been by far the best player on a team that includes the guy who won the MVP three years ago (Braun) and a guy who could have won the MVP last year (Carlos Gomez).


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Lucroy is currently hitting .334/.403/.515 with an NL-leading 28 doubles. His 156 wRC+ would be third among major league first basemen, fourth among corner outfielders, and second among DHs. Only he’s a catcher, and a very good defensive catcher to boot. That makes it harder for Lucroy to stack up counting numbers, since catchers only play about 80 percent as much as other position players do. It’s also not hard to argue that it’s harder for a player to hit if he’s squatting a couple hundred times a game and taking foul balls off the mask, as Lucroy does, than if he’s spending defensive innings freeloading, as, say, David Ortiz does. And Lucroy once again sits near the top of the pitch framing leaderboard, currently in a practical dead heat with Miguel Montero with a little more than 16 runs saved above average.




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Not too long ago, the Brewers released a video for Lucroy’s All-Star campaign in the style of a political ad pitting Lucroy against Yadier Molina.


It was funny and playful, and it calls attention to the great season Lucroy is having. I love everything about it, including how offended St. Louis manager Mike Matheny and various Cardinal fans got. Lucroy inspired something that was decried as classless by the Best Fans in Baseball and greeted with multiple paragraphs of “Gee, I dunno” from Mike Matheny, in which he literally used the phrase “Cardinal Way.” That’s how I know Lucroy is bringing joy and happiness to the world.

I joke, but Cardinals fans should be upset. Not because they’ve been somehow aggrieved by a promotional video for the All-Star Game or because the Brewers have a clever marketing department. They should be upset because the Brewers’ catcher is better than theirs, and people outside of Wisconsin are starting to notice
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:43 pm to


No.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:46 pm to
If he can keep this up and the Brewers take their division, he certainly deserves to be in the discussion.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:49 pm to
must suck for a catcher in your own division without a neck tattoo dominate so heartily.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:50 pm to
I don't really believe in the whole "you shouldn't win if your team sucks" thing which means Tulo is the clear cut favorite, but Lucroy is right behind him. He's really fricking good
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16942 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:53 pm to
Too soon.

But don't count him out.

Let's see what his stats look like in late August.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65758 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:54 pm to
The jealousy is so strong with you.

I think I could steal a base on Lucroy's noodle arm.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:36 pm to
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If he can keep this up and the Brewers take their division, he certainly deserves to be in the discussion.


That has absolutely nothing to do with the MVP award.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:38 pm to
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I don't really believe in the whole "you shouldn't win if your team sucks" thing which means Tulo is the clear cut favorite, but Lucroy is right behind him. He's really fricking good

Exactly. He's got the highest OPS in baseball and he's an elite defensive player at SS.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:38 pm to
He should be the leader right now IMO, but there is a lot of season left
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:42 pm to
You are kidding yourself if you don't think it plays a factor.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278144 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:49 pm to
Stanton > tulo
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:49 pm to
I know it plays a factor in the actual selection, I was just giving my opinion that it shouldn't. At least not nearly as much as some people give it.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:52 pm to
At least you can acknowledge it. Maybe it shouldn't, but our personal opinion doesn't really matter... we don't have to like it. The fact of the matter is that it does which the other poster has trouble understanding.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:52 pm to
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You are kidding yourself if you don't think it plays a factor.


It does play a factor and it's bullshite.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:53 pm to
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the MVP award.


tell that to Goldschmidt last year. even though the Pirates didn't win the division, playing on playoff team matters.

though it shouldn't.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:55 pm to
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That has absolutely nothing to do with the MVP award.



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It does play a factor and it's bull shite.



Well if you're going to call me out, at least make up your mind.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:55 pm to
Hog can't handle this news mayne.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66374 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:55 pm to
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