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Birth control is largely for recreational behavior, right?
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:30 am
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Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) agreed on Monday that women use birth control to protect themselves from “recreational behavior,” just hours after the Supreme Court ruled that some companies can refuse to provide health insurance coverage that includes contraceptive services.
During an appearance on Sirius XM’s The Wilkow Majority, host Andrew Wilkow argued that the real question in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores Inc., was about “whether or not a person who runs a business should be forced to provide something that is largely for recreational behavior, if it goes against their religious beliefs.”
Lee, responded by saying “Yea, that’s right, that’s right,” before claiming that “this administration is using the often coercive power of the federal government to force people into their way of being and their way of existing, their way of believing and thinking and acting.”
However, the overwhelming of women report using contraception for economic and medical reasons. Sixty-two million women in the U.S. are currently in their childbearing years and most — 99 percent — use birth control to prevent pregnancies, the National Women’s Law Center finds.
No shite...women taking birth control to prevent pregnancies? Who knew?
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Nearly 60 percent have relied on contraception for medical reasons like reducing cramps or menstrual pain, ensuring menstrual regulation, treating acne, and treating endometriosis. And according to a recent study from the Guttmacher Institute, 63 percent of women who use birth control say that they rely on contraception to take better care of themselves and their families.
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Sure, some people are using birth control for other medical reason but I don't believe for a second that people are not taking birth control for the simple fact they want to frick for the fun of it. So in other words, frick for recreational purposes. Why is this even questionable. After all that's why contraceptives such as the pill were invented.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:36 am to GumboPot
quote:So it foes against their religious beliefs that married people can have sex? Jeez.
During an appearance on Sirius XM’s The Wilkow Majority, host Andrew Wilkow argued that the real question in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores Inc., was about “whether or not a person who runs a business should be forced to provide something that is largely for recreational behavior, if it goes against their religious beliefs.”
Honestly, its not even against their religious beliefs that other people could have sex out of wedlock... It's against their religious belief for THEM to have sex out of wedlock. Isn't the supposed threat of Hell enough punishment for everyone else?
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:39 am to GumboPot
Why does it matter what motivation a woman has to take birth control? That's a decision for her and her doctor.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:40 am to GumboPot
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Nearly 60 percent have relied on contraception for medical reasons like reducing cramps or menstrual pain, ensuring menstrual regulation, treating acne, and treating endometriosis.
All of these are treatable using medication that doesn't have the main application of preventing pregnancy.
And I am all for women using it for those reasons because it does double in that capacity (and I am all for recreational sex), but it's weird that people are trying to convince others that they aren't using the pill primarily for birth control.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:40 am to The Spleen
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Why does it matter what motivation a woman has to take birth control? That's a decision for her and her doctor.
Then let her pay 100% for it or let her doctor pay for it.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:42 am to The Spleen
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Why does it matter what motivation a woman has to take birth control? That's a decision for her and her doctor.
In the context of the Hobby Lobby debate, it would seem to matter a great deal (at least generally, not in specific instances). If people are mad at Hobby Lobby for not footing the bill for their preferred method of contraception for recreational sex, then their rage all seems kind of silly (and it does).
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:47 am to The Spleen
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Why does it matter what motivation a woman has to take birth control? That's a decision for her and her doctor.
Apparently not, as the health insurance mandate directly makes questions of your healthcare your boss's business.
Untangle the link between employment and healthcare coverage and this all goes away. Then people are free, in a free market, to pursue the coverage that best suits their needs, rather than depending on inefficient government mandates to direct their employers about how healthcare must be provided.
Advocates of the ACA are only reaping what they sow.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:47 am to lsu13lsu
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Then let her pay 100% for it or let her doctor pay for it.
Okay and men should pay 100% for viagra and vasectomies since they are for recreational behavior as well. And neither of those even have any other medical benefits that many female contraceptives provide.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:49 am to The Spleen
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Okay and men should pay 100% for viagra and vasectomies since they are for recreational behavior as well.
Now you're gettin it!
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:49 am to The Spleen
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And neither of those even have any other medical benefits that many female contraceptives provide.
Incorrect. Viagra is indicated for the treatment of pulmonary hypertension. #themoreyouknow
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:50 am to GoBigOrange86
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Untangle the link between employment and healthcare coverage and this all goes away. Then people are free, in a free market, to pursue the coverage that best suits their needs, rather than depending on inefficient government mandates to direct their employers about how healthcare must be provided.
Agreed.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:51 am to The Spleen
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Why does it matter what motivation a woman has to take birth control? That's a decision for her and her doctor.
Then I shouldn't have to pay for it considering I don't have a voice in their decision.
If we're going to have to fund medications that have no bearing on my health then maybe it's time to do away with gender medication costs to all parties. i.e., let women's health premiums pay for female only medications and the same for the men. If a medication affects us all then let our premiums reflect that.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:57 am to lsu13lsu
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Why does it matter what motivation a woman has to take birth control? That's a decision for her and her doctor.
Then let her pay 100% for it or let her doctor pay for it.
Right. Next thing you'll see are health and fitness memberships included in Obamacare because the doctor recommends that I go to the gym 3-4 times a week.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:59 am to the808bass
I've actually seen doctor's offices use viagra for in-clinic hypertensive emergencies as well.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:59 am to GumboPot
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Right. Next thing you'll see are health and fitness memberships included in Obamacare because the doctor recommends that I go to the gym 3-4 times a week.
Uhmm...those are already included in many health plans
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:01 pm to the808bass
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In the context of the Hobby Lobby debate, it would seem to matter a great deal (at least generally, not in specific instances). If people are mad at Hobby Lobby for not footing the bill for their preferred method of contraception for recreational sex, then their rage all seems kind of silly (and it does).
The funny thing is Hobby Lobby only objected to paying for 4 out of 20 contraceptive pills. The 4 in question were abortifacients. A strong argument could be made for the remaining 16 that their primary purpose is to have sex without getting pregnant, i.e., recreational use.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:02 pm to The Spleen
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Why does it matter what motivation a woman has to take birth control? That's a decision for her and her doctor.
I agree. Of course that is not relevant to the question of who is paying for it.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:02 pm to The Spleen
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Okay and men should pay 100% for viagra and vasectomies since they are for recreational behavior as well.
I believe most men would be fine with this. It's the drug companies that you would have to convince.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:04 pm to kingbob
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Uhmm...those are already included in many health plans
But not mandated by Obamacare.
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