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re: Why moving Gordon isn't as high of a priority anymore

Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:56 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94829 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:56 am to
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That comes down to whether the Wiz are ready to move him. If they offer Ariza more than MLE-ish amounts, you have to think they'll try to move him.


The general thought is that the Wiz have wanted to move Webster for a while now between Ariza stepping up and Otto Porter being drafted.

It's more a question of what they think they can get out of us for him.


If they are willing to take Rivers, I can live with that if we find a way to make sure we have enough cap space for both Webster and Asik.

Sending out Gordon to them is a non-starter while sending Anderson to them better result in a lot more assets coming our way than just Webster.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:16 am to
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But I no longer feel that letting Gordon live out his contract would threaten the future of the team. Crisis averted. Signing the right SF to the MLE is much more important now.


I can't say that I disagree too much with your overview but there are a few comments.

First, unless EG shows solid play next season, there will be a stronger push to move him and a better chance to do so because of the expiring contract. If EG stinks or is hurt again, we're absolutely stuck with him for 2 years.

Secondly, Demps hasn't shown that he has an eye for cheap talent (Morrow is the only player who comes close). Other than AD and Ryno, everyone else is overpaid.


Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80159 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:22 am to
It pains to me to say but Fletch was right, we should not have signed Gordon to that ridiculous contract
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115410 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:26 am to
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Demps hasn't shown that he has an eye for cheap talent


I definitely disagree here. He's done a pretty decent job finding bargains and end of bench guys. He hasn't done a great job at putting the midlevel pieces in place...guys 6-9 on the roster.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:50 am to
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He's done a pretty decent job finding bargains and end of bench guys.


Like who?
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 11:56 am to
Moving Gordon isn't a high priority anymore because he CAN'T move Gordon

Let's not make a whole mess of excuses about this. It's as simple as that.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Moving Gordon isn't a high priority anymore because he CAN'T move Gordon

Let's not make a whole mess of excuses about this. It's as simple as that.





he means is not a necessity anymore and he is correct. you are misinterpreting it
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Like who?


Lopez
Vasquez
Smith
Morrow
Ayon
Roberts
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19439 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:02 pm to
It's a necessity to me damnit
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115410 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:05 pm to
Moving Gordon is my highest priority right now so that danman will stop talking about moving him.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Like who?


The question isn't who has he found (because he has found some- like many GMs), but how do these guys fit a larger profile?

They are usually minimum level after thoughts so their impact is always going to be peripheral, but they can be useful to help identify characteristics of a "Demps" player.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115410 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Lopez
Vasquez
Smith
Morrow
Ayon
Roberts




Yeah. I really think Dell does a pretty decent job of finding these guys.

Its the big picture, making the pieces fit, and middle of roster that seems to be...interesting.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:14 pm to
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It's a necessity to me damnit
believe me I know that feels
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:11 pm to
I like Marvin Williams
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115410 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:15 pm to
Marvin Williams has developed into a decent player that does a few things ok, but nothing really really well.

And he's a pretty average (at best) 3 point shooter. Best season ever was 38.9% two years ago, last year was 35%.

We would definitely need some more 3 point shooters.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10324 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:25 pm to
He's a good rebounder. He effectively gives what aminu gives you and teams won't sag off of him to crowd the paint.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115410 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:33 pm to
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He's a good rebounder. He effectively gives what aminu gives you and teams won't sag off of him to crowd the paint.


I'm shooting for a little higher than that.

Seriously, I want a jumpshooter at that position, but we are going to need to take what we can get, I guess.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:36 pm to
Just make this guy go away
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