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Gary Oldman is this Board's Favorite Actor
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:02 pm
You just didn't realize it until now
Warning: adult language in the article, including teh F-word, C-word, and N-word (used in the context of PC and mel gibson)
except for this
and this
Warning: adult language in the article, including teh F-word, C-word, and N-word (used in the context of PC and mel gibson)
quote:
PLAYBOY: What’s your view of the future? Are you optimistic about where society is heading?
OLDMAN: [Pauses] You’re asking Gary?
PLAYBOY: Yes.
OLDMAN: I think we’re up shite creek without a paddle or a compass.
PLAYBOY: How so?
OLDMAN: Culturally, politically, everywhere you look. I look at the world, I look at our leadership and I look at every aspect of our culture and wonder what will make it better. I have no idea. Any night of the week you only need to turn on one of these news channels and watch for half an hour. Read the newspaper. Go online. Our world has gone to hell. I listen to the radio and hear about these lawsuits and about people like this high school volleyball coach who took it upon herself to get two students to go undercover to do a marijuana bust. You’re a fricking volleyball coach! This is not 21 Jump Street.
Or these helicopter parents who overschedule their children. There’s never any unsupervised play to develop skills or learn about hierarchy in a group or how to share. The kids honestly believe they are the center of the fricking universe. But then they get out into the real world and it’s like, “shite, maybe it’s not all about me,” and that leads to narcissism, depression and anxiety. These are just tiny examples, grains of sand in a vast desert of what’s fricked-up in our world right now. As for the people who pass for heroes in entertainment today, don’t even get me started.
quote:
PLAYBOY: Goth chicks must have been banging down your door after that movie.
OLDMAN: It’s funny. I used to have this little office on Melrose, and people would come and try to find me. An attractive young woman came in one day with a tattoo of Dracula on her breast and wanted my signature over it. Then she went and had my autograph tattooed. I was cool with that.
quote:
OLDMAN: More and more, people in this culture are able to hide behind comedy and satire to say things we can’t ordinarily say, because it’s all too politically correct.
PLAYBOY: Do you have something in mind?
OLDMAN: Well, if I called Nancy Pelosi a count—and I’ll go one better, a fricking useless count—I can’t really say that. But Bill Maher and Jon Stewart can, and nobody’s going to stop them from working because of it. Bill Maher could call someone a fig and get away with it. He said to Seth MacFarlane this year, “I thought you were going to do the Oscars again. Instead they got a lesbian.” He can say something like that. Is that more or less offensive than Alec Baldwin saying to someone in the street, “You fig”? I don’t get it.
PLAYBOY: You see it as a double standard.
OLDMAN: It’s our culture now, absolutely. At the Oscars, if you didn’t vote for 12 Years a Slave you were a racist. You have to be very careful about what you say. I do have particular views and opinions that most of this town doesn’t share, but it’s not like I’m a fascist or a racist. There’s nothing like that in my history.
PLAYBOY: How would you describe your politics?
OLDMAN: I would say that I’m probably a libertarian if I had to put myself in any category. But you don’t come out and talk about these things, for obvious reasons.
PLAYBOY: But there are a ton of conservatives in Hollywood, and libertarians too. Bill Maher has called himself a libertarian.
OLDMAN: I think he would fail the test. Anyway, unlike Bill Maher, conservatives in Hollywood don’t have a podium.
except for this
quote:
PLAYBOY: Uh, The Fifth Element?
OLDMAN: Oh no. I can’t bear it.
and this
quote:
I loved True Detective
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's Germans except for the Fifth Element part. How the frick can he not love that movie? But yeah, it makes me an even bigger fan (he was already one of my 3 favorite actors).
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
you actually read the articles in Playboy?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:12 pm to THRILLHO
I saw that earlier.
F the PC police.
FTPCP
F the PC police.
FTPCP
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:29 pm to THRILLHO
I saw The Fifth Element just the other day, good stuff except for Chris Tucker.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Such cogent and moving points. Especially the defense of Mel Gibson. His rants were totally justifiable because everyone says **** and blames Jews for all the wars in the world in private...except, I guess, those of us who don't.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:36 pm to THRILLHO
quote:
How the frick can he not love that movie?
Even if someone hated the movie (I loved it) - they would admit Gary was the strongest thing in it. Just the line he delivers about "Give me a killer..." is worth the whole movie.
I use it all the time.
quote:
Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, he would have immediately asked
about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Gary, who should we fire in DC?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:45 pm to constant cough
I like Oldman, but he sucked in The Fifth Element. Probably why he doesn't like it.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:46 pm to Navytiger74
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except, I guess, those of us who don't.
The point is that everyone has said something, whether puiblicly or privately, that others would find offensive. People shouldn't be crucified simply for using language in a way others don't like. Somewhere along the line people got the idea that in this country, they have the inalienable human right not to be offended. Once we get over that we'll be better for it. Oh, and believe it or not, you can say offensive things about a group without harboring any hate or ill will towards them. Comedians do it all the time.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:48 pm to emcee422
quote:
The point is that everyone has said something, whether puiblicly or privately, that others would find offensive. People shouldn't be crucified simply for using language in a way others don't like. Somewhere along the line people got the idea that in this country, they have the inalienable human right not to be offended. Once we get over that we'll be better for it. Oh, and believe it or not, you can say offensive things about a group without harboring any hate or ill will towards them. Comedians do it all the time.
So you'd argue that social convention with regards to appropriate speech and behavior are new? Or perhaps that social sanction hasn't been applied to behaviors deemed boorish or unacceptable since the dawn of civilization?
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:49 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
Such cogent and moving points. Especially the defense of Mel Gibson. His rants were totally justifiable because everyone says **** and blames Jews for all the wars in the world in private...except, I guess, those of us who don't.
I love Mel Gibson!
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:49 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
His rants were totally justifiable because everyone says **** and blames Jews for all the wars in the world in private...except, I guess, those of us who don't.
the vast majority of people have some group they dislike/blame
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the vast majority of people have some group they dislike/blame
A group as in 10s of millions of people? And blame for what?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the vast majority of people have some group they dislike/blame
except for christians, republicans, rednecks, etc. they don't count.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:54 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
And blame for what?
the first question is "which problem?"
then we can pick which group you dislike that caused it
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
you're wasting your time
the whole position navytiger is arguing on behalf of, is based in fantasy land. which is essentially the headquarters of the PC movement.
the whole position navytiger is arguing on behalf of, is based in fantasy land. which is essentially the headquarters of the PC movement.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the first question is "which problem?" then we can pick which group you dislike that caused it
Which racial, ethnic, religious, or national group do you blame for the wars in the world? The national debt? Crime? Poverty? Have you assigned a specific value to each group for each issue? Can you back up the amount of blame you assign with empirical data?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:00 pm to NIH
Dbl.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 1:02 pm
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