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"Warning Shot" Law Signed In Florida
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:09 pm
Warning Shot Law Signed
What do you think? I personally think it is a very very bad idea. From what I understand, the "inspiration" for the bill Marissa Alexander was completely in the wrong but was punished excessively due to the inflexible 10-20-life law.
What do you think? I personally think it is a very very bad idea. From what I understand, the "inspiration" for the bill Marissa Alexander was completely in the wrong but was punished excessively due to the inflexible 10-20-life law.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:16 pm to mmcgrath
Link to Marissa Alexander "being in the wrong"? It was a domestic dispute, and according to the article, she felt threatened. You agree with a possible 60 year sentence for firing a warning shot? I don't.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:19 pm to mmcgrath
What's better, a warning shot or a first time kill shot?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:23 pm to mmcgrath
Is that the woman who left the altercation, got a gun, came back, shot at her domestic partner, missed, got busted and then pled stand your ground?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:25 pm to mmcgrath
Not everyone is eager to shoot and kill someone even when threatened. This gives those people protection. This was needed imo.
Curious what you mean by
Curious what you mean by
quote:
Marissa Alexander was completely in the wrong
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:27 pm to mmcgrath
my concern is this really blurs lines.
I mean, at what point does unnecessary escalation of force separate from drawing a gun/firing in the ground?
I fear this will end up with more people being shot, not less.
I mean, at what point does unnecessary escalation of force separate from drawing a gun/firing in the ground?
I fear this will end up with more people being shot, not less.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:28 pm to upgrayedd
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Is that the woman who left the altercation, got a gun, came back, shot at her domestic partner, missed, got busted and then pled stand your ground?
Facts not necessarily in evidence:
quote:
Alexander said she fired the warning shot a few days after giving birth. Her estranged husband, Rico Gray, accused her of having an affair and questioned whether the baby was his. She says she locked herself in the bathroom until he broke through the door and shoved her to the floor. She ran into the garage, found a gun in a car and fired a "warning shot" after he said he would kill her.
Prosecutors say the shot hit the wall, not the ceiling, and could have hit Gray or his children. At one point they offered Alexander a plea deal of three years in prison. She turned that down and chose to go to trial.
If she left and got a gun, stand your ground certainly shouldn't apply. I dont agree with 60 years or even an aggravated assault conviction. 5-10 max.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:39 pm to Tiguar
quote:
my concern is this really blurs lines. I mean, at what point does unnecessary escalation of force separate from drawing a gun/firing in the ground? I fear this will end up with more people being shot, not less.
My first thought was somewhat similar to this. It seems like this could be an easy excuse for people to illegally discharge firearms with fewer repercussions.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:43 pm to mmcgrath
I don't like "warning shots". Never know where it's going to finally end up.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:51 pm to Helo
quote:I could NOT disagree more. If you have the luxury of firing a "warning shot"... your life isn't in danger, and you have no business displaying a firearm.
Not everyone is eager to shoot and kill someone even when threatened. This gives those people protection. This was needed imo.
Bad bill for self defense advocates. Now the question when you have to shoot a thug and end up on the stand will be "Mr. Racist/Bigot/Homophobe, why didn't you fire a warning shot first? My client was such a good boy, surely he would have not hurt you."
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:51 pm to Helo
quote:I mean that she fired a few shots into the wall very close to her husband (and kids) who were already retreating.
Curious what you mean by
quote:
Marissa Alexander was completely in the wrong
BTW, the husband was living in the house that she illegally entered.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:52 pm to PsychTiger
What's worse, getting shot while shooting in the air or killing a thug ?
If you shoot first then fire in the air no one will know which came first.
If you shoot first then fire in the air no one will know which came first.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:56 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:I agree with this 90%. I am OK with the person displaying the firearm if they feel threatened, but firing a "warning" shot seems more like intimidation to me. As you say, if they have that luxury they can't feel too threatened. I can see homeowners standing on their porch firing "warning shots" at teenagers running through their yards.
I could NOT disagree more. If you have the luxury of firing a "warning shot"... your life isn't in danger, and you have no business displaying a firearm.
Besides the Marissa Alexander case, I can't find any claim by someone firing a "warning shot" who was punished. The 10-20-Life rule seems to be more of the issue here, guaranteeing 20 years for each count of any felony.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:00 pm to mmcgrath
quote:IMO that's not a good use for a firearm . Hose works pretty good too!
I can see homeowners standing on their porch firing "warning shots" at teenagers running through their yards.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:04 pm to mmcgrath
Joe Biden says he supports this law. For me, doesn't make me any difference. Show me a women brandishing any kind of gun and she won't have time to fire a warning shot. My arse is outta there before she could pull the trigger.
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