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OT Mechanics- Screw you Ford Engineers edition
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:37 pm
I'm changing the timing cover gasket on my sisters 2003 Ford Taurus. Just finished it today, took me 3 afternoons. I had to remove the alternator, power steering pump and bracket (leaking anyways so that was ok), idler pulley, tensioner, water pump (replaced it since it was off), and the crank just to get the timing cover off. Then I had to replace the oil pan gasket since it was stuck to the bottom of the TC. This job was a pain in the butt and has really got me rethinking/questioning my position as a Ford Man if this is the kind of design they are putting out.
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:37 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:38 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Why would you put yourself through that?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:39 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Pulling the timing cover on pretty much any motor is gonna involve taking off a good bit of shite.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:39 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Vehicles aren't designed for you to work on them at home anymore, bring it to a pro
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:41 pm to yellowfin
OP has not looked under the hood of a new diesel.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:42 pm to CaptainBrannigan
About $600-$700 to change the spark plugs on an expedition. If you can find a shop that wants to mess with it.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Why would you put yourself through that?
Its my sister. Would you not do that for your sister?
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Pulling the timing cover on pretty much any motor is gonna involve taking off a good bit of shite.
True. But there is not need for a water jacket to be behind the timing chain cover. They could have engineered it better.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:44 pm to yellowfin
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Vehicles aren't designed for you to work on them at home anymore, bring it to a pro
Why would I do that? I have the same knowledge as a pro, and the same tools (own a crank removal tool now for $15 bucks)
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:45 pm to CaptainBrannigan
My sister is dead. And there is no way I could have done that for my sister. She would have needed a new ride if I attempted that. 
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:46 pm to CaptainBrannigan
I'm sure there's a reason for it.
Not much is easy on new stuff man. Just be happy you didn't have to change the plugs.
Not much is easy on new stuff man. Just be happy you didn't have to change the plugs.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The oil filter is a bitch on my dads 10 compare to my 99
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:47 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:49 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Well, they do build it Ford Tough. 
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:51 pm to tigers win2
That's cause ford saved money by using 2-3 threads in the spark plug hole. I had a coolant leak in the manifold gasket. Had to take everything off the engine. Took it to a shop and had them change the plugs since they were accessible. $1200 bucks. 5.4 triton fwiw.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:03 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Ford's crappy design/packaging has been going on for quite some time. Not to mention more than half of the parts are made in Mexico.
Had to change the evaporator on my 98 5.4 F150.
Remove seats, drop column, remove dash just to get at the part
Had to change the evaporator on my 98 5.4 F150.
Remove seats, drop column, remove dash just to get at the part
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:41 pm to CaptainBrannigan
They don't make them for you to work on, they make them for dealers to work on.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:01 pm to AndyCBR
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Remove seats, drop column, remove dash just to get at the part
Damn. AC work is not something I am good at. My arse would have tried to cut a hole in the firewall. I removed the dash from my Mustang to change the heater core. Every damn thing in the dash was riveted to a 4" round solid bar in the dash (my guess is for safety reasons). I am near got a hernia trying to put it back in place.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:03 pm to kywildcatfanone
And they're usually realllllll easy to work on IF you have the information you need from the factory.
Modern vehicles are very modular. Figuring out what needs to come off and what doesn't is a different matter if you don't have the manual from the manufacturer.
Modern vehicles are very modular. Figuring out what needs to come off and what doesn't is a different matter if you don't have the manual from the manufacturer.
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