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Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & now
Posted by pleading the fifth on 6/19/14 at 7:35 pm90
Excerpt from WSJ:
Rest of op-ed: LINK
quote:
Saying the mess in Iraq is President Obama's fault ignores what President Bush did wrong. Saying it is President Bush's fault is to ignore all the horrible foreign policy decisions in Syria, Libya, Egypt and elsewhere under President Obama, many of which may have contributed to the current crisis in Iraq. For former Bush officials to blame President Obama or for Democrats to blame President Bush only serves as a reminder that both sides continue to get foreign policy wrong. We need a new approach, one that emulates Reagan's policies, puts America first, seeks peace, faces war reluctantly, and when necessary acts fully and decisively. Too many in Washington are prevented by their own pride from admitting their mistakes. They are more concerned about saving face or pursuing a rigid ideology than they are with constructing a realist foreign policy.
Rest of op-ed: LINK
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by 4LSU2 on 6/19/14 at 7:41 pm to pleading the fifth
This certainly sounds like a man that truly gets it, but we heard the same song and dance from Obama during his campaign in 2008. Everything he campaigned on has been a complete lie.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by TT9 on 6/19/14 at 7:42 pm to pleading the fifth
He's spot on.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by LSUGrrrl on 6/19/14 at 7:44 pm to pleading the fifth
They are more concerned d with getting re-elected and gaining/holding on to power to admit their mistakes.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by genuineLSUtiger on 6/19/14 at 7:44 pm to pleading the fifth
I just have a hard time trusting any of these clowns. Although RP would get my vote if he ran.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by trackfan on 6/19/14 at 7:45 pm to pleading the fifth
He was doing good until he held up Reagan as an example to be emulated, lest we forget his Mideast screw-ups. IMO, Bush 41 was the best foreign policy President in my lifetime, both in the Mideast and elsewhere.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by TT9 on 6/19/14 at 7:47 pm to genuineLSUtiger
I'm quasi liberal, and he would get mine because of his foreign policy views alone.
This country needs new blood.
This country needs new blood.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by Born to be a Tiger on 6/19/14 at 9:52 pm to trackfan
So who was Bush 41 SoS?
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by pleading the fifth on 6/19/14 at 10:01 pm to trackfan
I read it more as him championing Reagan's Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger doctrine for war following Vietnam than Reagan's foreign policy. Regardless, a breath of fresh air in contrast to the notoriously war-hawkish GOP.
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re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by JuiceTerry on 6/19/14 at 10:25 pm to pleading the fifth
quote:
We need a new approach,
quote:Sounds like every other politician trying to win an election. I guarantee I could find a clip of Obama saying the same thing, essentially.
puts America first, seeks peace, faces war reluctantly, and when necessary acts fully and decisively.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by trackfan on 6/19/14 at 11:05 pm to pleading the fifth
quote:
I read it more as him championing Reagan's Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger doctrine for war following Vietnam than Reagan's foreign policy. Regardless, a breath of fresh air in contrast to the notoriously war-hawkish GOP.
I think he was probably pandering to the base who believes that Reagan was a deity. Let's not forget that only a month ago, Paul was slamming Reagan for being a worse President on fiscal issues than Carter.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by trackfan on 6/19/14 at 11:06 pm to Born to be a Tiger
quote:
So who was Bush 41 SoS?
Is this a rhetorical question? If so, what's your point?
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by Sleeping Tiger on 6/19/14 at 11:07 pm to pleading the fifth
Ron nailed it for a long long time too.
Unfortunately it wasn't trendy to like him at the time.
Unfortunately it wasn't trendy to like him at the time.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by John McClane on 6/20/14 at 12:21 am to pleading the fifth
I fricking love this guy. I just hope people show up and support him
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by John McClane on 6/20/14 at 12:24 am to trackfan
quote:
I think he was probably pandering to the base who believes that Reagan was a deity. Let's not forget that only a month ago, Paul was slamming Reagan for being a worse President on fiscal issues than Carter.
Where the frick are you getting that from?
Rand didn't mention fiscal issues. That's not what he is talking about. He can't praise certain Reagan views and attack different ones?
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by Buckeye Backer on 6/20/14 at 6:10 am to John McClane
Voted for Obama. Will vote for Rand Paul if he wins the nomination. As an Army Iraq War Veteran, he will get my vote on his foreign policy views alone. We need a new way of thinking in this country. Hyper-Partisianship is killing this great country. We need somebody that isnt afraid of either party. Rand Paul scares the shite out of both partes. He gets my vote!!
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by Jim Rockford on 6/20/14 at 6:11 am to pleading the fifth
I heard a pundit the other day say Cheney's PR offensive on Iraq is really aimed at Rand.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by Bestbank Tiger on 6/20/14 at 6:29 am to pleading the fifth
quote:
For former Bush officials to blame President Obama or for Democrats to blame President Bush only serves as a reminder that both sides continue to get foreign policy wrong.
Same goes for domestic policy.
re: Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & nowPosted by Bestbank Tiger on 6/20/14 at 6:30 am to 4LSU2
quote:
This certainly sounds like a man that truly gets it, but we heard the same song and dance from Obama during his campaign in 2008. Everything he campaigned on has been a complete lie.
I understand the skepticism. But there's a big difference. Obama was pandering to his party's base. This is a risky position for a Republican which makes it more likely to be sincere.
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