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gun transfer of ownership louisiana to florida
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:50 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:50 am
I have a coworker who is a resident of Florida that would like to purchase one of my handguns. How do we go about transferring it?
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:59 am to bayoutiger08
FFL
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:21 am to bayoutiger08
No FFL is required. Just take his money and give him the gun.
A good thing to do is print out a form putting the guns serial # and his name and address saying he bought it. Keep that for your records... just in case.
A good thing to do is print out a form putting the guns serial # and his name and address saying he bought it. Keep that for your records... just in case.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:23 am to DownSouthDave
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:26 am to DownSouthDave
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No FFL is required. Just take his money and give him the gun
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print out a form putting the guns serial # and his name and address saying he bought it
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:27 am to DownSouthDave
No for out of state sales a 4473 is required. If you sell to someone that is a Louisiana resident in the state of LA you don't need a 4473 for personal sales.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:36 am to bayoutiger08
LINK
Here is link to the ATF website stating this. Scroll down to the following FAQ.
What record-keeping procedures should be followed when two private individuals want to engage in a firearms transaction?
Here is link to the ATF website stating this. Scroll down to the following FAQ.
What record-keeping procedures should be followed when two private individuals want to engage in a firearms transaction?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:39 am to civiltiger07
It says that you would have to send it to an FFL in the buyers state of residency.
But under "what constitutes residency in a state" it says
So I would think if he is in LA and lives here for work, you're good to go.
But that is just what I would do. I have ZERO legal background.
But under "what constitutes residency in a state" it says
quote:
The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State.
So I would think if he is in LA and lives here for work, you're good to go.
But that is just what I would do. I have ZERO legal background.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 8:48 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:01 am to civiltiger07
A person's residency is determined by their "usual place of abode". A person can actually have more than one state of residency (if for example they spend summers in one state and the rest of their time in another state). A person's place of birth has nothing to do with their "residency". If the guy is living in LA for work, he shouldn't need to jump through all of the hoops of an interstate sale. 
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:10 am to jammintiger
Does residency = domiciled?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:17 am to Geauxtiga
Note exactly. Domicile = residency plus intent to make that state your permanent home. Determining domicile involves all sorts of things, like which state you pay taxes in, where you are registered to vote, what sort of ties you have with your current community etc.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:20 am to bayoutiger08
The less Uncle Sam knows, the better. :wink:
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:39 am to DownSouthDave
Downsouthdave is absolutly corectomundo. I can't stand it when folks talk about unregistered fired arms, THERE IS NO FEDERAL REGISTRATION OF FIREARMS, yet anyway.
PLaces like New York City or Chicago might have one but not nationally.
Now if the guy kills someone or uses it in a crime they can trace the gun back to the dealer where it was shipped and who bought the gun in the first place and so on.
PLaces like New York City or Chicago might have one but not nationally.
Now if the guy kills someone or uses it in a crime they can trace the gun back to the dealer where it was shipped and who bought the gun in the first place and so on.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:12 pm to BIG Texan
I never said nor has anyone else that a federal firearm registry exist. No need to get you panties in a wad.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:25 pm to jammintiger
I understand what you are saying, but the OP only said that he is his co-worker. Never mentioned that he lived in LA for just for work, if he moved to LA just never officially changed his residence, or if he is a co-worker that lives in Florida.
OP needs to give more information.
OP needs to give more information.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:32 pm to BIG Texan
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I can't stand it when folks talk about unregistered fired arms, THERE IS NO FEDERAL REGISTRATION OF FIREARMS, yet anyway.
one would be Naive to believe that the ATF doesn't know or has even attempted(or succeeded) to keep a database of firearm transactions over the years...
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:36 pm to Pepperidge
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database of firearm transactions
When an FFL calls in a background check the SN, Brand or Model is never communicated to the ATF agent. Now would I be shocked if the ATF has something? HELL NO
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:06 pm to civiltiger07
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Now would I be shocked if the ATF has something? HELL NO
that is what I was getting at...
Posted on 6/18/14 at 3:54 pm to Pepperidge
If you know that he is a resident of Florida, you should go through an FFL in his state. Transferring a handgun isn't allowed without it. The sale is legal, but you can't give/transfer it to him.
If he has a Louisiana drivers license, go for it. I would recommend the Bill of Sale also. Make sure to get his LA DL# on it too
See #2 & 3 here
If he has a Louisiana drivers license, go for it. I would recommend the Bill of Sale also. Make sure to get his LA DL# on it too
See #2 & 3 here
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 4:01 pm to xenon16
The truth is, we don't know. The OP ran off without any other details.
If he is living here for work, like a contract worker, that should be enough to constitute residency. See #11.
Even if he doesn't live here, intent is a factual determination. Him saying he intends to live here should be enough.
Try and prove he doesn't intend to reside here.
If he is living here for work, like a contract worker, that should be enough to constitute residency. See #11.
Even if he doesn't live here, intent is a factual determination. Him saying he intends to live here should be enough.
Try and prove he doesn't intend to reside here.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 4:02 pm
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