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Good boat batteries?

Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:53 pm
I am out of the loop on battery quality as far as boats go..

I am looking for:

1 Deep Cycle - Trolling Motor

1 Canking Battery - 15hp engine, FF, Nav Lights

Any suggestions?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:57 pm to
I have 3 on my boat. I use Interstate and Wal Mart ones. Don't really notice any difference.
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3849 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:05 pm to
I go with Interstate, cranking, 1000 amp
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:10 pm to
Everstart Maxx for the trollmotor.
Everstart for starting.

quote:

Everstart branded batteries sold at Wal-Mart are manufactured by Johnson controls, This is the same company who manufactures batteries for just about all of the "big box" stores as well as most of the discount auto parts stores. Johnson Controls also makes batteries for Interstate battery company, Ford, GM & Chrysler. These batteries are simply re-branded for different retailers. Just because you buy this battery from Wal-mart for $30 less then Interstate does not make it any less of a battery.
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:16 pm to
Does the 15hp have the pull start, if it does you could get away with one 29 group battery and run cable to front for trolling motor.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:54 pm to
15 is electric start. What is the deal with the groups? I see Everstart Maxx Group 24 and Group 29. Besides the batteries looking different, I am lost.
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:21 pm to
The group numbers refer to the physical case size of the battery. There are overlaps in storage capacity between case sizes, in that a better quality group 24 may have more amp hours than a lesser quality group 27.

The CCA ratings are significant for motor cranking applications. The reserve capacity number is significant if you are using a battery for house banks, bait well pumps, trolling motors and such. The reserve capacity number is a measure of how long a battery will provide a constant 23 amp load in minutes.

A starting battery will usually have a higher CCA rating but lower Reserve capacity than a Deep Cycle battery of the same group number from what I have observed.

A deep cycle battery will perform as well as a starting type battery in most applications but you may need to jump up a group size to get the same CCA rating. However, the starting battery will expire more quickly if you are using it under heavy sustained loads such as a house bank or trolling motor power.

Then there are the AGMs! They perform like deep cycle batteries, but self-discharge more slowly and can be recharged more quickly, but at a price premium!

Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:44 am to
I really appreciate the information.

I think I am going to go with the larger group-29 batteries for both applications.

I would like the smaller battery and slight weight reduction of the lower groups, but I would rather have more peace of mind with the larger batteries out on the water.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:38 am to
I've had big momma, bull dogs (Mack), and a bunch of other ones over the years.

Currently I have Energizers I bought at SAMS 4 years ago still running strong. That's about average as far as life span so far, but they were priced very reasonably compared to the big names.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38719 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:40 am to
I guess what I am getting at, is over the years I have learned to always try to keep a charge on them and maintain the water. They last a lot longer than letting them sit up for half the year, then being disappointed when they won't hold a charge the next spring.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:44 am to
most regular batteries come from just a few plants, as noted with the example below. So buy based upon the warranty and store locations.

If you want to step up to an expensive battery, the sears diehard platinum is the best buy on the market. The are rebranded Odyssey batteries(probably one of the best) with one of the best warranties you will find on a battery. I think its at 8 years now, with a large portion of that being replacement, not pro rating(which you need to look at when comparing warranties)

stay away from optima
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 9:45 am
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:40 am to
quote:

learned to always try to keep a charge on them and maintain the water


Charging is my next question. Do you use the "Battery Tender" style trickle charger as soon as you get the boat home, or just a regular battery charger as needed?

How often do you have to recharge the cranking battery, and when do you know to recharge?

Trolling motor battery gets recharged after each trip?
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Charging is my next question. Do you use the "Battery Tender" style trickle charger as soon as you get the boat home, or just a regular battery charger as needed?


A Battery Tender will work, but will take longer(2-5 days) to bring the battery voltage up to full charge. I would recommend a 6 amp charger for your trolling motor and a Battery tender for your starting battery.

quote:

How often do you have to recharge the cranking battery, and when do you know to recharge?


Like I said above, used a Battery Tender for you Starting battery. get yourself a Voltmeter and check you batteries, if there are higher then 12.4 Vdc there are fully charge. If below then charge over night check next day.

quote:

Trolling motor battery gets recharged after each trip?



Yes, make it a habit to put the charger on after a fishing trip. Because you will never know when you will get to go the next time.
Posted by Manatee
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:17 pm to
No matter what battery you get invest in a quality on board charger like ProMariner. It will be the best investment in your life, boat will crank and troll motor will work when needed.
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:20 pm to
Bump for Polar Pop

Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:37 pm to


Thanks again for the information.

This is just a 15ft aluminum kick around boat I got, so I doubt I will spring for the on-board charger, although it would be nice.

I just mainly want reliability. I am used to my kayak cranking up and running right every time Im ready to move
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